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    The War against Islam...
    According to historian R.M. Savory,

    "The existence of Islam has always made the West profoundly uneasy. Islam was the only major world religion to be revealed after the rise of Christianity, and consequently it was, from the moment of the revelation of Islam in the seventh century A.D., viewed by Christendom as a direct threat and challenge to itself.

    On the theological and religious level, the reaction of the West was strong, sustained and, almost without exception, hostile. Hostility was based on fear, and fear had its roots in ignorance. Christendom feared Islam, and therefore misrepresented it. Christians were ignorant of Islam, at least in part, because Christendom, prompted by odium theologicum had no desire to understand or tolerate Islam.
    Muslims who use this term often point to the Crusades and European colonization of their lands believing it to be an example of an attempt to destroy the Muslim way of life. In addition to believing the West had "a well-thought-out scheme the object of which is first to shake the foundations of Islamic beliefs", Sayyid Qutb for example maintained that the medieval Christian Crusades were not "a form of imperialism," but rather Western imperialism was a new form of the Crusades, "latter-day" imperialism in Muslim lands being "but a mask for the crusading spirit."
    Pope Urban II preaches the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont "I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it."
    On September 16, 2001 George W. Bush referred to the war in Afghanistan as a Crusade: "This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while. And the American people must be patient. I'm going to be patient." [44] The Arabic word for Crusade means War of the Cross; thus, many Arabic speakers misinterpreted the way in which Bush used the term crusade.
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    In one of the affidavits a former employee who served for 4 years in Blackwater and was a former US marine, alleged that Mr Prince;

    “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe...To that end, Mr. Prince intentionally deployed to Iraq certain men who shared his vision of Christian supremacy, knowing and wanting these men to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis. Many of these men used call signs based on the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades”.
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    National is Iraq's first Baptist congregation and one of at least seven new Christian evangelical churches established in Baghdad in the past two years. Its Sunday afternoon service, in a building behind a house on a quiet street, draws a couple of hundred worshipers who like the lively music and focus on the Bible.
    During the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, American evangelicals made no secret of their desire to follow the troops. Samaritan's Purse, the global relief organization led by the Rev. Franklin Graham -- who has called Islam an "evil and wicked" religion
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    "Two persons wearing Arab uniforms opened fire at a police station in Basra. A police patrol followed the attackers and captured them to discover they were two British soldiers," an Interior Ministry source told Xinhua. The two soldiers were using a civilian car packed with explosives, the source said.
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    aqua_lung.. Islams knight in shining tinfoil armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w1z4rd View Post
    aqua_lung.. Islams knight in shining tinfoil armor.
    Thanks for your insight...
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    aqua_lung, for somebody that claims to be an Atheist and that enjoy Religion/Christian/Jesus bashing as much as the next guy, you always seem to come to the defense of Islam.

    Hypocritical much ?

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    Should the OP not maybe state his view on this subject?
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    Quote Originally Posted by w1z4rd View Post
    aqua_lung.. Islams knight in shining tinfoil armor.
    lol he is the epitome of a useful idiot. The extremists definitely appreciate his efforts to swell their ranks.

    There are millions of Muslims living in Western countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalSoldier View Post
    aqua_lung, for somebody that claims to be an Atheist and that enjoy Religion/Christian/Jesus bashing as much as the next guy, you always seem to come to the defense of Islam.

    Hypocritical much ?
    It's only because he sees that Islam at war with the 'West' which would guarantee anybody his support
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    /grabs his popcorn

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    @DigitalSoldier

    Since the Iraq war started yes I do feel the need to speak out against what I see as an organized campaign against a religion committed by a few who are not interested in peace.

    I would prefer the world to be atheist, agnostic or at the very least Buddhist but unfortunately that will never be the case.
    Last edited by Aqua_lung; 07-09-2009 at 11:24 AM.
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    Sufferwell doesn't seem to have a problem with "Islam" attacking Buddhists though.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    There are millions of Muslims living in Western countries.
    There were millions of Jews living in Europe, they were not safe when a Christian fundamentalist came to power.

    Islam existed in Europe once, then the reconquest happened, forced conversion of these places to Christianity.

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    Sufferwell doesn't seem to have a problem with "Islam" attacking Buddhists though.....
    Now where did I say that.. oh right more of the usual BS.
    I don't support any fundamentalism.
    Last edited by Aqua_lung; 07-09-2009 at 11:33 AM.
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    So why don't they all apply to become refugees in Canada?

    Should be pretty easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqua_lung View Post
    There were millions of Jews living in Europe, they were not safe when a Christian fundamentalist came to power.

    Islam existed in Europe once, then the reconquest happened, forced conversion of these places to Christianity.
    Where are these dreaded Christian crusader fundamentalist western countries? All I see are secular western societies

    Now where did I say that.. oh right more of the usual BS.
    I don't support any fundamentalism.
    Odd then that you subscribe to exactly the same drivel as the extremists and you focus almost entirely on these supposed "Christian fundamentalists"
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    "The War Against Islam"???

    what about the "The War of Radical Islam Against the West"???
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    Might as well go back to the first Crusade when Islam was first attacked by the radical West.
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