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    Quote Originally Posted by Jow View Post
    Is it possible to submit printed copies of the two PDF forms found online or do you need to submit the original yellow and blue forms from the licensing office?
    It will vary from Licencing office to Licencing office. Some are absolute pains when it comes to sticking rigidly to the rules, no matter what the circumstances. I wouldn't chance it with a PDF download unless I personally knew who was going to do the licencing for me.

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    What is the best moment to cancel the insurance on the car which is being sold? Would it be after the NCO form has been submitted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jow View Post
    Is it possible to submit printed copies of the two PDF forms found online or do you need to submit the original yellow and blue forms from the licensing office?
    Gauteng appears to be happy with black and white paper copies of the necessary forms.
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    I bought a scooter for my son, and have the signed receipt (I used the sale agreement link posted in this thread), and took it for the roadworthy test and have the cert for that, and all I need now is for the previous owner to submit the change of ownership documents which I prepared for her. I's struggling to get hold of her.

    What course of action can I take if she doesn't comply and submit the docs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibal View Post
    I bought a scooter for my son, and have the signed receipt (I used the sale agreement link posted in this thread), and took it for the roadworthy test and have the cert for that, and all I need now is for the previous owner to submit the change of ownership documents which I prepared for her. I's struggling to get hold of her.

    What course of action can I take if she doesn't comply and submit the docs ?
    If you have the registration documents and a signed receipt from the previous owner then you should be able to register the vehicle in your name even if the seller has not yet handed in the yellow form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deweyzeph View Post
    If you have the registration documents and a signed receipt from the previous owner then you should be able to register the vehicle in your name even if the seller has not yet handed in the yellow form.
    I have the registration docs and a copy of the yellow form signed by her, and a copy of her ID, but was told that as the buyer I could not submit the change of ownership on her behalf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibal View Post
    I have the registration docs and a copy of the yellow form signed by her, and a copy of her ID, but was told that as the buyer I could not submit the change of ownership on her behalf
    You definitely can, I've done it many times myself. If you have the signed yellow form, that's even better. I have to say though, as a seller you must be pretty thick to hand over the yellow form to the buyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibal View Post
    I bought a scooter for my son, and have the signed receipt (I used the sale agreement link posted in this thread), and took it for the roadworthy test and have the cert for that, and all I need now is for the previous owner to submit the change of ownership documents which I prepared for her. I's struggling to get hold of her.

    What course of action can I take if she doesn't comply and submit the docs ?
    She promised to submit the NCO form today, and around 12 I got a call from her with all sorts of excuses why she could not.

    I think that I'll just go to the registering office and present my docs, and they can explain what happens in a case like this where the seller doesn't submit their NCO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibal View Post
    She promised to submit the NCO form today, and around 12 I got a call from her with all sorts of excuses why she could not.

    I think that I'll just go to the registering office and present my docs, and they can explain what happens in a case like this where the seller doesn't submit their NCO.
    You don't need to explain anything. As we've told you over and over again, it is perfectly fine for you to hand in the seller's yellow form yourself. We've all done it many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deweyzeph View Post
    You don't need to explain anything. As we've told you over and over again, it is perfectly fine for you to hand in the seller's yellow form yourself. We've all done it many times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibal View Post
    I have the registration docs and a copy of the yellow form signed by her, and a copy of her ID, but was told that as the buyer I could not submit the change of ownership on her behalf
    I have been to the local registration office, and was told by them that she can give a letter authorizing a family member to submit the NCO form on her behalf, or a friend, but not the buyer.

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    Let's say I have lost my Current Registration Certificate and need to sell my car. Can I ask the traffic department for a new one or what?
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    Question: (based on when you are the buyer)

    On the yellow form, who fills in what section? the are 3 A, B & C?

    The blue form is used by the buyer(new owner) to register the car in his name.

    Ok, so after you decided you(as the buyer) want to go through with the sale, what happens nxt?

    Who draws up the sales agreement? the seller? Who hands it over to who?

    When do you pay for the goods? before or after signing the sale agreement? there needs to be a "something' that does not enable the seller to run off with your money after you deposit into his account before signing a legal document

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipodmusicman View Post
    Hi folks,

    We are looking to sell our Renault Megane Sedan soon and I want to sell it privately since I can get MUCH more money for it than if I traded it in at a dealer.

    I want to compile a step-by-step guide with help from from you, the MyBB forumites, and once complete, ask a mod to sticky it on this forum. I am sure this question gets asked a lot, but nobody seems to detail the steps one needs to follow. I hope to detail it with your help with precise instructions - even indicating which parts of the various forms one needs to fill in as well as any other details that I have missed.

    I have outlined the following so far from the very sketchy explanations given on some websites, but any feedback on the steps below and any answers to questions that I have would be greatly appreciated. If there are any websites out there that give a good and concise step-by-step guide, please post it here. I want to make this a 1 stop step-by-step guide and your help making it awesome would be greatly appreciated a lot.

    I'll monitor this thread and modify this post accordingly.

    Ok, here goes.

    Preparation of the sale

    1. Make sure that all known defects are resolved. I have to replace my brake pads and two rear tyres. If you have a conscience as a seller, you'll feel good that at the end of the day that you sold a car that has no issues that you are aware of plus it all adds up to being honost to the buyer.

    2. Optional. Get a multi-point check done on the vehicle. Dekra is the company that is associated with that AA that carries out these checks. This does include a roadworthy test as well. If you really want to go the extra mile, you can have a technical inspection done which can take around 2 to 3 hours to complete. This just gives the buyer confidence. The only snag here is that Dekra could point out issues that you were not aware of that could cost you thousands to repair in order to clear your conscience. More details http://www.aa.co.za/36/vehicle-tests/ or http://www.dekraauto.co.za/

    3. Optional. It is highly recommended for the seller to have the vehicle roadworthied. The transfer of the vehicle into the buyer's name can only occur once a roadworthy certificate that is no older than 21 days old accompanies the transfer documents that are handed in at the traffic deparment. If you are like me and you want something done properly, do it yourself. The less delay you add into the equation on the buyer's side to get the car transferred over to their name, the better. But if you choose not to do the roadworthy, the buyer would be responsible for this.

    4. Go to your local traffic department and pick up the following:

    4.1 One "Yellow" Notification of Change of Ownership/Sale of Motor Vehicle form. http://www.capegateway.gov.za/other/...or_vehicle.pdf

    4.2 One "Blue" Application for Registration and Licensing of Motor Vehicle form. http://www.capegateway.gov.za/other/...or_vehicle.pdf

    I am going to refer to the "Yellow" and "Blue" forms within the context of this post.

    Question: It is suggested that both the buyer and seller submit their own copies of the yellow form indicating that two yellow forms are required. I believe the seller needs to submit it, but what is the benefit on the buyer's side?

    5. Download a sales agreenment and print it out. Found one http://www.cooperattorneys.co.za/Veh...%20vehicle.pdf

    6. If you've paid off the vehicle, which I have, have the proof of ownership documentation with you as well the letter indicating that the car has been paid off. This letter is sent to you by the bank after you have settled the vehicle finance.

    If you have not paid off your vehicle as yet, request a settlement letter from the financial institution with whom your vehicle is financed through. This letter contains the settlement amount and it is generally a good indication that the car isn't stolen, etc.

    You should also be in possession of the Registration Certificate of the vehicle which you'll need to hand over to the buyer.

    7. Take the car for a major valet. Got those seats cleaned, esp if your car is a family car where on occasion your toddler has spilt food or drink on the seats.

    The Sale

    8. Advertise your car online (Gumtree, CarFind, Autotrader, etc) Make sure that you attach good and clear pictures of the vehicle. Also add a good description of the features and even include the reason for selling the car. Word the ad in a warm and friendly tone. Be honost and include any extras like it having iPod connectivitiy for example. If you decided to go with the AA multipoint check and roadworthy, indicate that in your ad as well.

    9. Viewing of the vehicle by the buyer. This is your first person-to-person contact with the buyer and can be a nerve wrecking experience since you are trusting that your prised asset does not go bye-bye by some opportunist. Although we try to be a good judge of character by the initial phone call, decide based on your gut where to meet the buyer. Avoid corresponding with a potential buyer over SMS or e-mail. Go back to basics and speak to them on the phone.

    Two possible suggestions are to get the buyer to come to your house or to a busy service station. Service stations generally have many people around and have CCTV cameras, so if there is an issue, the CCTV will be the watchful eye. Never meet them somewhere else or at their place of residence. It is up to you as to whether to invite them to your house to view the vehicle.

    10. Make sure you have a friend / family member with you when buyers come and see the vehicle. You'll find that the buyer will also bring a friend / family member along for advice.

    11. Keep your car keys at your side at all times. When going for a test drive, get into the front passenger seat while your friend / family member gets in at the back and then hand over the keys.

    12. Once the buyer has indicated that they are interested in the car, confirm how they are going to finance the vehicle. A cash paying buyer is of course, the best and simpliest option.

    12.1 If they are paying cash, require them to do EFT only. No cheques - not even bank guaranteed cheques or cheque deposits either.

    12.2 Question: If they need to finance the car, what is the steps that need to be followed here?

    13. Fill out the sales agreenment as mentioned above and both parties must sign. This is a binding contract. Question: Does the Consumer Protection Act apply here in terms of a 7 day cooling off period?

    14. The buyer and seller must fill out the "Yellow" and "Blue" form from the traffic department and both sign them.

    15. Request a copy of the buyer's identity document and drivers license. You want to sell your car to a licensed driver after all. Also keep in mind that you'll need to make a copy of your identity document as well which is to be submitted with the relevant forms to the traffic department.

    16. Never let the vehicle leave your house without payment in full. Make sure that the funds are in your bank account and that they reflect as such. Cheque deposits reflect as an entry on your bank statement, but the funds are not available as yet until they clear. Make sure that the funds are available in your account. There have been many cases where a seller takes the proof of payment as gospel, but never checks that the funds actually cleared. Once that is the case, you can release the vehicle to the buyer.

    17. Once the buyer has paid for the vehicle, agree on a date of collection of the vehicle. Again, rather get them collect it. Much easier on the logistics.

    18. Besides the keys, provide the buyer with the spare key and any accessories that form part of the vehicle that are not attached to the vehicle (blinds, nets, etc). Provide the buyer with the following documents:

    18.1 Proof that the car has been paid off if it was previously financed.

    18.2 The "Blue" form from the traffic department filled in and signed.

    18.3 Current Registration Certificate.

    18.4 Copy of your identity document.

    18.5 Roadworthy certificate if you decided to do the roadworthy yourself.

    18.6 A receipt as proof of the sale.

    18.7 Optional. Draw up an agreenment between the seller and the buyer indicating the date and time of the collection of the vehicle and that all fines incurred before transfer of the vehicle are his responsibility. Keep in mind that legally you, as the current owner, according to the traffic department, are still responsible for the fines incurred after the buyer has taken delivery and it is important that you hand in the yellow form to the traffic department as soon as possible to minimise the risk. An agreenment of this nature could possibily act as a scare tactic which could bind the buyer to drive responsibly.

    It is advisable that you make copies of all documentation for your own purposes.

    After the sale

    18. As the seller, hand in the "Yellow" form to the traffic department. The buyer needs to hand in the "Blue" form as well as roadworthy documentation and registration certificate.

    Question: If the seller decides that they want to hand in the "Blue" form and other supporting documentation themselves, what happens about the registration plates? I assume that a change of ownership / registration into another person's name, the registration number changes and new plates would need to be made?

    19. Done! Now you can use the proceeds of the sale to finance your next vehicle.

    Well that is it. Please comment below so that I can make this a concise step-by-step guide.
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    hi! I have a car that i want to sell with the registration papers but its on my ex wifes name. Car is still licenced and she left the car in my possession during divorce, how can i sell it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack11 View Post
    hi! I have a car that i want to sell with the registration papers but its on my ex wifes name. Car is still licenced and she left the car in my possession during divorce, how can i sell it?
    Is it yours to sell?

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