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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuN View Post
    Plenty of them grow up to be lecturers and teachers who continue their descent into madness and nonsense pseudo-intellectualism trying to "out extreme" each other while indoctrinating the next generation and destroying academic institutions. Others setup/infiltrate lobby groups, organisations and companies, and all of a sudden being a whiny c*** is what actually puts food on their table. It's an industry now, and it is having very serious consequences. They had to carve out most of these spaces because social science degrees are practically useless otherwise. They have to create problems in order to justify their own existence.

    You say it's just part of growing up, but this ideology actually regresses them into small children, quite frankly. They sht their pants, start crying and throwing tantrums over literally nothing. They want to play the victim.

    It's the same strategy of control that toddlers use, except toddlers have an excuse, they're toddlers.


    These people are so bat sht crazy because of cavalier attitudes like yours. Westerners totally dropped the ball on this sht.

    They dropped the ball in the 60's and they never even bothered to pick it back up.

    When Christianity collapsed, that was our chance to destroy that moral value system, but that didn't happen. People simply threw away God, kept the base of that moral value system, and then pushed those values to new extremes, and they are still doing so today.

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    In the last 2 weeks in the US

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    Charles Murray wrote 'The Bell Curve' in 1994 with co-author Richard Herrnstein.
    Students and faculty argue the book promotes racism, classism, and misogyny and say he shouldn't speak on campus...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarog View Post
    You should be celebrating, Trigun. What do you think the natural human reaction to this is going to be?
    I will save the celebrations for when my job is done.

    I suppose a lot of people think it's just the universities that give the time of day to this insanity, but that's incorrect.
    Their ideology is being fully embraced and funded by corporates, a lot of mainstream media, and governments.

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    Did you call a transsexual person “he” or “she” when they preferred to be called “zhe?”...

    In the latest, astonishing act of draconian political correctness, the NYC Commission on Human Rights have updated a law on “Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Expression” to threaten staggering financial penalties against property owners who “misgender” employees or tenants.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...x-regulations/
    The upshot of the breathless crusade against the alleged epidemic of campus sexual assaults has been the imposition of “affirmative consent” or “yes means yes” laws in New York and California...

    People our age never imagined the once-future spectacle of nervous youths trying to figure out elaborate, multi-stage verbal contracts for sexual intimacy, amid the heat of passion and the cold fear of mistakes that can bring harsh legal consequences, particularly for young men..

    The most telling criticism of this dopey law is that proof of positive verbal consent during every stage of an intimate encounter is nearly impossible to obtain, especially since partners are meant to establish ongoing consent at every stage of an escalating sexual encounter...

    One of the students half-jokingly talks about obtaining a signed contract from every romantic partner. Frankly, under the logic of “affirmative consent,” that wouldn’t be good enough. People could claim they were pressured into signing the contracts without reading them, perhaps because they were inebriated. “Ongoing” consent would call for a stack of contracts, to be reviewed and signed at key moments as the evening unfolds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuN View Post
    I will save the celebrations for when my job is done.

    I suppose a lot of people think it's just the universities that give the time of day to this insanity, but that's incorrect.
    Their ideology is being fully embraced and funded by corporates, a lot of mainstream media, and governments.

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/1...a-transsexual/



    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...x-regulations/


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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuN View Post
    I will save the celebrations for when my job is done.

    I suppose a lot of people think it's just the universities that give the time of day to this insanity, but that's incorrect.
    Their ideology is being fully embraced and funded by corporates, a lot of mainstream media, and governments.
    And it's also going to die horribly. Just wait and see.

    This would be the same NYC that is generally known for its draconian policing to the point where the citizenry is generally hostile towards the police, right?

    You know, the whole Zero Tolerance policy for crime and all.


    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...x-regulations/


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    Considering what a political battleground this lot is, I think any guy that would stick his pecker in a woman without confirming she's interested first is playing russian roullette. Informed consent is already a mainstay of BDSM relationships; it need not be a bad thing.
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    Easy just claim to be a female to male transgender person. If you were a male, you would automatically be guilty of rape. But as a female to male transgender, you will be protected from such claims.

    Since according to feminists, women cannot be guilty of rape, sexual assault, or domestic abuse. Therefore, as a female to male transgender person, you will not be capable of those crimes either.

    Checking to see whether you really are female to male transgender will mean they are questioning you, which is verboten today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xarog View Post
    Considering what a political battleground this lot is, I think any guy that would stick his pecker in a woman without confirming she's interested first is playing russian roullette. Informed consent is already a mainstay of BDSM relationships; it need not be a bad thing.
    It is worse than that - consent can be revoked at any time after the event.

    There have been reports that if you get a woman to sleep with you by lying to her, you have committed rape in the eyes of feminists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarog View Post
    Considering what a political battleground this lot is, I think any guy that would stick his pecker in a woman without confirming she's interested first is playing russian roullette. Informed consent is already a mainstay of BDSM relationships; it need not be a bad thing.
    It would completely kill the mood, and I'm sure that's the idea.

    A man verbally asking if he can escalate = betacuck which is unattractive to a woman
    A woman having to verbally consent to being "violated" makes her feel like a slut. Most women like it when it happens if they can rationalize that it "just happened", they don't like having to take responsibility for it happening.

    It's really easy to get around this. You make your intentions known before you do something without actually saying so verbally. She can make it known that that's not going to happen, girls already do that.

    Unless you want to do something taboo, there is really no need to verbalize it.

    If it happens in BDSM then it doesn't have much to do with the sex, it has to do with the roleplay and the BDSM.
    Don't they also have safe words? AKA "No means No"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuN View Post
    It would completely kill the mood, and I'm sure that's the idea.
    That's a rather bold claim.

    A man verbally asking if he can escalate = betacuck which is unattractive to a woman
    A woman having to verbally consent to being "violated" makes her feel like a slut. Most women like it when it happens if they can rationalize that it "just happened", they don't like having to take responsibility for it happening.

    It's really easy to get around this. You make your intentions known before you do something without actually saying so verbally. She can make it known that that's not going to happen, girls already do that.

    Unless you want to do something taboo, there is really no need to verbalize it.
    Yes, there are many reasonable ways to do it. What's your point?

    If it happens in BDSM then it doesn't have much to do with the sex, it has to do with the roleplay and the BDSM.
    Don't they also have safe words? AKA "No means No"?
    Well that all depends.

    I mean, some people would use safewords and would have that as part of the agreement. Some people might choose to forego that entirely. You also get people who don't just do it as a roleplay thing but actually engage in a total power exchange relationship where they acknowledge the utter right of the other person to make them do or to inflict upon them whatever the other person might choose.

    I don't really know of a single legal system which is really helpful to people who want to explore the more visceral aspects of dominant and submissive behaviour.

    Frankly I think the legal system could do with a bit of an overhaul with regards to navigating sexual intimacy in the 21st century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarog View Post
    That's a rather bold claim.
    Not that bold. I watched the lecture given by the professor advocating for this.
    I am very good at psycho analyzing people.
    The stated aims are never the real aims with these sociology nutters.

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    Yes, there are many reasonable ways to do it. What's your point?
    That this isn't reasonable. It's completely unreasonable for exactly the reasons I gave, and more.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xarog View Post
    Frankly I think the legal system could do with a bit of an overhaul with regards to navigating sexual intimacy in the 21st century.
    Well there are critiques of this ambiguous landmine of a system on youtube, it's completely flawed and damn near impossible to implement. Nobody understands it. It would inevitably suck the passion out of encounters, which is why literally nobody who wants to get laid will use it. Unfortunately that potentially opens them up to legal repercussions if someone decides to be vindictive afterwards for completely different reasons. That said, it's just your word against theirs, so nothing has really changed on that front. The whole idea that any significant number of rapes and sexual assaults is down to "misunderstandings" is retarded. If you feel so pressured that you're not willing to push someone away and/or say No, then I'm pretty sure you're going to feel pressured enough into just saying Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuN View Post
    Not that bold. I watched the lecture given by the professor advocating for this.
    I am very good at psycho analyzing people.
    The stated aims are never the real aims with these sociology nutters.
    So you think they intend to stop sexual intimacy in general?

    That this isn't reasonable. It's completely unreasonable for exactly the reasons I gave, and more.
    Well, are you arguing against a specific law, or against the idea of affirmative consent in general? They are not one and the same thing, and you seem to be conflating the two.

    Well there are critiques of this ambiguous landmine of a system on youtube, it's completely flawed and damn near impossible to implement. Nobody understands it. It would inevitably suck the passion out of encounters, which is why literally nobody who wants to get laid will use it. Unfortunately that potentially opens them up to legal repercussions if someone decides to be vindictive afterwards for completely different reasons. That said, it's just your word against theirs, so nothing has really changed on that front. The whole idea that any significant number of rapes and sexual assaults is down to "misunderstandings" is retarded. If you feel so pressured that you're not willing to push someone away and/or say No, then I'm pretty sure you're going to feel pressured enough into just saying Yes.
    Sure. I'm not disputing any of that. I'm not even saying that the SJWs have a point. What I am saying is that the way they are aggravating the discussion need not be a bad thing.

    So personally, instead of opposing them with hostility, I intend, where I encounter them, to make them justify their decisions so that everyone may scrutnise what they're really on about. I think I can critically respond to their points insofar as I disagree with them, and I think that's more effective than being worried about what they're going to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarog View Post
    So you think they intend to stop sexual intimacy in general?
    They are the regressive left, so they are a bit like fundamentalist Christians. Yeah, they're puritanical and hostile towards sex. Mostly they hate straight men, and this is obviously designed specifically to neuter them, and to punish those that pleasure them. They want to drive a wedge into those relations.

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    Well, are you arguing against a specific law, or against the idea of affirmative consent in general? They are not one and the same thing, and you seem to be conflating the two.
    The specific law, although, I'm not sure how it would work in any form while being particularly useful and not putting a damper on the whole thing.


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    I intend, where I encounter them, to make them justify their decisions so that everyone may scrutnise what they're really on about.
    Trying to talk sense into them is almost impossible, because they are clearly crazy.
    They don't respond well to critique of their ideas either, they take everything very personally, mostly they hyperventilate and call you names.
    There are quite a few big youtubers who do what you are suggesting as their primary material.

    The most accurate description I could give that would tell you what to expect is "religious fanatic".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuN View Post
    They are the regressive left, so they are a bit like fundamentalist Christians. Yeah, they're puritanical and hostile towards sex. Mostly they hate straight men, and this is obviously designed specifically to neuter them, and to punish those that pleasure them. They want to drive a wedge into those relations.
    How familiar are you with critical theory?


    The specific law, although, I'm not sure how it would work in any form while being particularly useful and not putting a damper on the whole thing.
    The same thing could be said of the BDSM scene. I mean, is it truly dominating someone if they have to consent to it?

    And then again, maybe people shouldn't be having so much casual sex with strangers. Not because it's immoral or anything, but simply because the ultimate outcome is a smaller population and lower STD transmission.

    Trying to talk sense into them is almost impossible, because they are clearly crazy.
    I'm not interested in talking sense into them. I'm interested in getting them to show everyone else just how senseless they are.

    They don't respond well to critique of their ideas either, they take everything very personally, mostly they hyperventilate and call you names.
    Well, as an internet veteran, I feel I can handle the odd insult without being triggered.

    There are quite a few big youtubers who do what you are suggesting as their primary material.
    Well, if you believe that any of them are good at that kind of thing, I suppose I could take a look. I would say Milo Yiannopoulos does a semi-decent job of engaging these people. However, there are better bases to build one's argument from than the ones he uses.

    The most accurate description I could give that would tell you what to expect is "religious fanatic".
    Yup. And thus full of anxiety and anxious responses dialled up to 11.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35968787
    Is this Gap advert racist?...

    It's the tall white girl resting her arm on the head of the shorter black girl that has triggered the controversy. For some it's insulting and, if not intentionally racist, at least reflective of a lack of thought on Gap's part (hence the term "passive" racism). For others, the image is harmless, and the backlash against it ridiculous.
    The initial anger appeared on Twitter...

    The argument soon spilled over into opinion pieces, too.
    Writing in The Root, a black culture magazine, Kirsten West Savali argues that the advert compounds "the feeling that our black bodies are undervalued and positioned to serve as props upon which white bodies can be better appreciated and admired." For her the critical reaction on social media was most definitely "valid".

    A black film director added a new twist to the story. Matthew A. Cherry tweeted a picture from an old Gap ad campaign that showed a tall black girl resting her arm on the head of a shorter white girl, side by side with the new image. "Does the pic on the left make the pic on the right OK?" he asked.

    But the emergence of the older photo didn't stem the tide of anger. For a number of users it was the expression of the black girl in the new photo that made the difference. "No... that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed," wrote one..

    As a result of the negative publicity Gap has acted. In a statement issued on Monday the company said: "As a brand with a proud 46-year history of championing diversity and inclusivity, we appreciate the conversation that has taken place and are sorry to anyone we've offended. This GapKids campaign highlights true stories of talented girls who are celebrating creative self-expression and sharing their messages of empowerment. We are replacing the image with a different shot from the campaign, which encourages girls (and boys) everywhere to be themselves and feel pride in what makes them unique."

    Even that move couldn't help offending others..
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    Welcome to the SJW generation. Best not employ them to maintain a happy, conflict free work place.

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