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    Cue more death threats and Daily Fail front page assaults on the judges and the judiciary.
    "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese."

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    Quote Originally Posted by konfab View Post
    MPs in the UK are elected from districts. If the MPs don't vote the way their district voted, they will become easy pickings for UKIP. Labour have a serious problem in this respect.

    They will most likely choose to save their jobs and vote for article 50.
    That's why I said the Act will struggle in the Lords, Peers don't have constituencies, they can't be voted out by an angry portion of the electorate as they are indirectly appointed via the political parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave123 View Post
    That's why I said the Act will struggle in the Lords, Peers don't have constituencies, they can't be voted out by an angry portion of the electorate as they are indirectly appointed via the political parties.
    I don't think they would go against parliament and the referendum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konfab View Post
    I don't think they would go against parliament and the referendum.
    The HoL often do, it's why every now and then UK governments try and plan to get rid, they are a contrary bunch (which is one reason the population approve of the idea of a non-elected second chamber, it slows or halts stupid government ideas).

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    ugh...this is turning into a thoroughly half-baked mess.
    Beware weapons grade stupidity in post following this one

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    our reasons are as follows. Section 2 of the 1972 Act provides that, whenever EU institutions make new laws, those new laws become part of UK law. The 1972 Act therefore makes EU law an independent source of UK law, until Parliament decides otherwise. Therefore, when the UK withdraws from the EU Treaties, a source of UK law will be cut off
    In what universe is this a problem and a justification?!?

    The people: we want our voices heard above the EU's
    Supreme court: no that would cut off the EU's voice

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowBandFtw View Post
    In what universe is this a problem and a justification?!?

    The people: we want our voices heard above the EU's
    Supreme court: no that would cut off the EU's voice

    The real universe.
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    I must be retarded then

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicBunny View Post
    The real universe.
    The one where the establishment is in touch with the people and always gets its own way?

    That's yesteryear's reality, the court evidently didn't get the memo. A ruling of this potential magnitude based on nothing more than a technicality is piss poor judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowBandFtw View Post
    The one where the establishment is in touch with the people and always gets its own way?

    That's yesteryear's reality, the court evidently didn't get the memo. A ruling of this potential magnitude based on nothing more than a technicality is piss poor judgement.
    A technicality still has to be followed even if 99% voted for Brexit , the government has planned for this and is unlikely to affect the Brexit timeline

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowBandFtw View Post
    In what universe is this a problem and a justification?!?

    The people: we want our voices heard above the EU's
    Supreme court: no that would cut off the EU's voice

    In its in the quote, and fairly easy to understand.

    Section 2 of the 1972 Act provides that, whenever EU institutions make new laws, those new laws become part of UK law. The 1972 Act therefore makes EU law an independent source of UK law, until Parliament decides otherwise.
    This isn't a dictatorship, Parliament is supreme, not the government or the Prime Minister...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave123 View Post
    In its in the quote, and fairly easy to understand
    An EU act hints that parliament has to decide and a UK court claims this is reason for the UK law to honour it, you reckon that is clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave123 View Post
    This isn't a dictatorship, Parliament is supreme, not the government or the Prime Minister...
    A dictatorship is precisely the kind of place where you'd expect the will of the people to be overridden by government ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowBandFtw View Post
    An EU act hints that parliament has to decide and a UK court claims this is reason for the UK law to honour it, you reckon that is clear?
    A dictatorship is precisely the kind of place where you'd expect the will of the people to be overridden by government ...
    It's not referencing an EU Act, the 1972 Act mentioned is UK legislation, namely The European Communities Act 1972, the ruling is sensible, what the UK Parliament legislated in 1972 needs to be removed by UK Parliament legislation now, it's a simple principle...

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    It will easily pass the HoC.

    Guido Fawkes says in the region of 400 MPs will vote for Article 50 to be triggered.
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    And we all remember this image don't we? HoL will be playing with fire if they play silly buggers...pity Tory MPs voted down Lords reform in retrospect :/\

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    USA/Britain/Russia trifecta for world peace coming soon

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