The Brexit Thread

[C4Cat]

Hence the need to google, that post was given without source and left too much to assumptions.

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...xit-sadiq-khan


That is what was apparently paraphrased into:


Now whether he is "calling on" or "demanding from" he is doing it to parliament, where he holds zero authority. So he's going public instead like a little bitch.

It's irrelevant whether he has the 'authority' to make the demand - he has made his call, hasn't he, so his right to make it or not is irrelevant. As far as I'm concerned every citizen has both the right, the authority and the duty to make demands from the government and parliament.

[f2wohf]

At least, there is clarity on this matter.

[Hamish McPanji]

At least, there is clarity on this matter.

So they're gone keep the Chunnel open? We had bets going that they might shut it down or collapse it

[f2wohf]

So they're gone keep the Chunnel open? We had bets going that they might shut it down or collapse it

I was thinking more along the lines of using the Navy’s brand new plane carrier to push UK further away from the European coasts.

[Hamish McPanji]

I was thinking more along the lines of using the Navy’s brand new plane carrier to push UK further away from the European coasts.

I actually thought you were joking, but it's doable. Detailed plans below



They might even get to run over the Irish as a bonus

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Brilliant people...

Ukip leader Bolton suffers further blow after girlfriend furore



The leader of the UK Independence party has suffered a further blow to his credibility, after admitting that he will have to sell his flat to settle outstanding service charges.

Henry Bolton is already facing calls to resign over an affair with a 25-year-old model who made racist comments. His financial position has been questioned since he was elected leader of the anti-EU party last September. The role of leader is unpaid, and Mr Bolton has no other salary.

A person familiar with Mr Bolton’s property in Folkestone, Kent, said that the Ukip leader had refused to pay approximately £28,000 service charges for more than a year. “Everyone in the building knows it,” the person said.

Ukip said Mr Bolton would now sell the flat and use some of the proceeds to “pay the outstanding charge”. “He is in communication with the management agent on this matter,” the spokesman said.

On Monday Mr Bolton also announced he had ended the “romantic element” of his relationship with Jo Marney, a model and Ukip member, who made offensive comments about Meghan Markle, Prince Harry’s fiancée.

But the move did not satisfy some of his critics within Ukip: Bill Etheridge, an MEP, resigned as the party’s sports spokesman, and reiterated his call for Mr Bolton to resign.

Mr Bolton’s difficulties are the latest to afflict Ukip, which has struggled for coherence since the Brexit vote. The party has had two leadership elections within the past 18 months. Its former leader, Nigel Farage, contradicted the party’s line on Brexit last week, saying that a second referendum might be necessary.

Mr Bolton, who has never been elected to public office, remained little known until news of his affair broke. He has claimed that his enemies within Ukip are using his affair to undermine his leadership. Some Ukip members have complained they were unaware about Mr Bolton’s past as a member of the Liberal Democrats, before his election in September.

Mr Bolton has previously worked as a security consultant. When elected in September, he said there were “various ways that I will have to look at my income”.

Internal divisions, visible under Mr Farage’s leadership, have deepened since his resignation in July 2016. Diane James, an MEP elected leader, resigned after just 18 days in post, blaming internal opposition. Paul Nuttall, her successor, quit after the 2017 general election, and has been heavily criticised for focusing the party on the question of Islamic integration.

Mr Bolton’s election was greeted with relief by many senior figures, including Mr Farage, who feared the party would face extinction if a rival candidate, the anti-Islam campaigner Anne Marie Waters, won.

[f2wohf]

Brilliant people...

Ukip leader Bolton suffers further blow after girlfriend furore



The leader of the UK Independence party has suffered a further blow to his credibility, after admitting that he will have to sell his flat to settle outstanding service charges.

Henry Bolton is already facing calls to resign over an affair with a 25-year-old model who made racist comments. His financial position has been questioned since he was elected leader of the anti-EU party last September. The role of leader is unpaid, and Mr Bolton has no other salary.

A person familiar with Mr Bolton’s property in Folkestone, Kent, said that the Ukip leader had refused to pay approximately £28,000 service charges for more than a year. “Everyone in the building knows it,” the person said.

Ukip said Mr Bolton would now sell the flat and use some of the proceeds to “pay the outstanding charge”. “He is in communication with the management agent on this matter,” the spokesman said.

On Monday Mr Bolton also announced he had ended the “romantic element” of his relationship with Jo Marney, a model and Ukip member, who made offensive comments about Meghan Markle, Prince Harry’s fiancée.

But the move did not satisfy some of his critics within Ukip: Bill Etheridge, an MEP, resigned as the party’s sports spokesman, and reiterated his call for Mr Bolton to resign.

Mr Bolton’s difficulties are the latest to afflict Ukip, which has struggled for coherence since the Brexit vote. The party has had two leadership elections within the past 18 months. Its former leader, Nigel Farage, contradicted the party’s line on Brexit last week, saying that a second referendum might be necessary.

Mr Bolton, who has never been elected to public office, remained little known until news of his affair broke. He has claimed that his enemies within Ukip are using his affair to undermine his leadership. Some Ukip members have complained they were unaware about Mr Bolton’s past as a member of the Liberal Democrats, before his election in September.

Mr Bolton has previously worked as a security consultant. When elected in September, he said there were “various ways that I will have to look at my income”.

Internal divisions, visible under Mr Farage’s leadership, have deepened since his resignation in July 2016. Diane James, an MEP elected leader, resigned after just 18 days in post, blaming internal opposition. Paul Nuttall, her successor, quit after the 2017 general election, and has been heavily criticised for focusing the party on the question of Islamic integration.

Mr Bolton’s election was greeted with relief by many senior figures, including Mr Farage, who feared the party would face extinction if a rival candidate, the anti-Islam campaigner Anne Marie Waters, won.

[OrbitalDawn]

UKIP filled with racists? Well, I never...

[f2wohf]

Never a day without fun thanks to the Brexiters.

[f2wohf]

Finally a country ready to help UK going through Brexit.

In a further sign of a desire to break with the Mugabe era, Mr Mnangagwa signalled that Britain and he were keen for Zimbabwe to rejoin the Commonwealth, 16 years after its suspension over human rights abuses.

“When we have engagement, they [Britain] want to raise the issue about us joining the Commonwealth. I said I’ll be happy to deal with that . . . I personally have nothing against the Commonwealth club.”

He added that Brexit is “a good thing because they will need us. And we will make sure we become very close to them. So that what they’ve lost with Brexit they can come and recover from Zimbabwe.”

https://www.ft.com/content/05ad2492-...2-d7d59aace167

[OrbitalDawn]

The Government's Own Brexit Analysis Says The UK Will Be Worse Off In Every Scenario Outside The EU

The government's new analysis of the impact of Brexit says the UK would be worse off outside the European Union under every scenario modelled, BuzzFeed News can reveal.

The assessment, which is titled “EU Exit Analysis – Cross Whitehall Briefing” and dated January 2018, looked at three of the most plausible Brexit scenarios based on existing EU arrangements.

Under a comprehensive free trade agreement with the EU, UK growth would be 5% lower over the next 15 years compared to current forecasts, according to the analysis.

The "no deal" scenario, which would see the UK revert to World Trade Organization (WTO) rules, would reduce growth by 8% over that period. The softest Brexit option of continued single-market access through membership of the European Economic Area would, in the longer term, still lower growth by 2%.

These calculations do not take into account any short-term hits to the economy from Brexit, such as the cost of adjusting the economy to new customs arrangements.

The assessment seen by BuzzFeed News is being kept tightly guarded inside government. It was prepared by officials across Whitehall for the Department for Exiting the European Union (DExEU) and is reportedly being presented to key ministers in one-to-one meetings this week ahead of discussion at the Brexit cabinet subcommittee next week.

Asked why the prime minister was not making the analysis public, a DExEU source told BuzzFeed News: "Because it's embarrassing."

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The Government's Own Brexit Analysis Says The UK Will Be Worse Off In Every Scenario Outside The EU

buzzfeed

and the pro-EU government of the UK made a case for not leaving? Shocking ...

[The_Assimilator]

buzzfeed

and the pro-EU government of the UK made a case for not leaving? Shocking ...

Since when are the Tories pro-EU?

[NarrowBandFtw]

Since when are the Tories pro-EU?

Since forever, were you not around all the years that Cameron blocked the referendum from even happening?

Perhaps pro-status quo is a better phrase, the outcome is the same, the vast majority of both Torries and Labour don't support brexit. They're merely executing a mandate given to them by their citizens, begrudgingly so.

[Chris_the_Brit]

The Government's Own Brexit Analysis Says The UK Will Be Worse Off In Every Scenario Outside The EU

This from the same civil service which predicted massive job losses and negative economic growth within two years after the vote?

Economists can hardly predict what will happen next year, nevermind in 15 years. Continue believing voodoo economics if it helps you sleep at night .