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    Quote Originally Posted by C4Cat View Post
    So all the positives were a direct result of the oppression and subjugation of people?
    The people were already oppressed and subjugated when white people got here. That is what made it easy for them to continue it.

    But then you have to consider that the British brought the end of slavery to the continent. Slavery that existed before Jan van Riebeeck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konfab View Post
    The people were already oppressed and subjugated when white people got here. That is what made it easy for them to continue it.

    But then you have to consider that the British brought the end of slavery to the continent. Slavery that existed before Jan van Riebeeck.
    Yes Mr Revisionist

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4Cat View Post
    So all the positives were a direct result of the oppression and subjugation of people?
    Where the snot did you come to that conclusion from?
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    I must be retarded then

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4Cat View Post
    She's talking nonsense. All those positives could have been introduced without colonialism, through trade, sharing of knowledge, alliances and mutual respect. The idea that the oppression and subjugation through the establishment of colonies was necessary for development is nonsense.
    The Portuguese Empire had colonised many territories. Here they largely settled in Angola and Mozambique, but in places elsewhere they established trading posts to do trade, share resources and build relationships. You know what the indigenous did to these trading posts? Have a look at what happened in what today is known as Zimbabwe. There is no evidence that the Portuguese exploited or oppressed the Munhumutapa, Torwa and Rozvi.

    Easier said than done. Colonists hunts resources which are easier accessed by establishing control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4Cat View Post
    She's talking nonsense. All those positives could have been introduced without colonialism, through trade, sharing of knowledge, alliances and mutual respect. The idea that the oppression and subjugation through the establishment of colonies was necessary for development is nonsense.
    Yeah, we were just passing by on our ships and we wouldn't want to intrude but we thought you may appreciate some picture-based user manuals on things like the written word, our current methods of road & rail construction, architecture and farming to mention but a few. Use it, don't use it. Toodles!

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    If you are going to start blaming and condemning everything that every happened in history, then be sure to blame the Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Romans, Greeks and everyone who came after....
    They ALL subjugated people, but we ALL enjoy the benefits of their technological advancements...
    We might as well strip naked and go sit in the veld so that we can divest ourselves of all tainted advancements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4Cat View Post
    Yes Mr Revisionist
    What am I revising? Have you read Zulu history?

    If anything you are the one chucking history you don't like into the memory hole.

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    Whether or not she's right, is irrelevant. Know your audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand_man View Post
    Mmusi on 702 now...
    Seriously time for Helen to be issued with a Nokia 3310. Clearly misses the limelight, when the irrelevance is really strong, time for a tweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ho3n3r View Post
    Whether or not she's right, is irrelevant. Know your audience.
    Without a doubt.
    The statement she made, whilst 100% correct, is like a lighter in a sawdust factory in this country currently.
    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWizard View Post
    I must be retarded then

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    My tea cup is shaking. There must be a huge storm in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby_Doo View Post
    My tea cup is shaking. There must be a huge storm in it.
    Oh, it's gonna make Dineo look like a soft summer breeze eventually.

    The black racists will take this and run with it like hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4Cat View Post
    So all the positives were a direct result of the oppression and subjugation of people?
    More like they were simply part of the culture and level of technological development of the people who oppressed and subjugated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ho3n3r View Post
    Whether or not she's right, is irrelevant. Know your audience.
    This is what started the storm:
    Other reasons for Singapore's success: Parents take responsibility for children, and build on valuable aspects of colonial heritage.
    https://twitter.com/helenzille/statu...53237763858432

    South Africa does a similar thing.
    English is a valuable aspect of colonial heritage in this country. You even had the useful idiots fighting to be taught for it in Stellenbosch.

    She was mostly going on about how a free market economy made a poor fishing post into a giant economical hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebocan View Post
    Seriously time for Helen to be issued with a Nokia 3310. Clearly misses the limelight, when the irrelevance is really strong, time for a tweet.
    She's doing a great job at sabotaging Mmusi's DA...
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