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    Pre-production drive. Vehicle will be unveiled at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September./

    Porsche Cayenne (2018) Pre-Launch Review

    Porsche doesn't normally let the media drive its pre-production cars, but on this very rare occasion, we were allowed to drive the upcoming Cayenne in the foothills of the Pyrenees. Could the 3rd iteration of the car that single-handedly saved Porsche from the doldrums be ready to trump its competition in the premium SUV market?

    There were times when I knew I should be concentrating on recording what the all new, yet-to-be-unveiled Porsche Cayenne was like to drive when, in fact, my mind was more occupied with wondering what on earth the locals must have made of us.

    Imagine this: 5 large SUVs, all in dark colours and most of them black, sweeping across the countryside in convoy, tape covering their badges, strange plastic coverings concealing their headlights and rear lamps. The silhouette of any one of these shark-nosed cars was pretty sinister, but to watch five of them thunder by, escorted by a small fleet of Volkswagen Transporters struggling to keep up must have made curious onlookers wonder what on Earth the convoy was doing out here in the foothills of the Pyrenees.

    The answer was just a bit of everyday ho-hum sign-off testing for a car that will receive its public unveiling in Frankfurt in September, be driven by the rest of the world’s press later in the year and become available in the South African market in 2018. Quite why I am the only English speaker to have been allowed to drive the new Cayenne to date never becomes clear... I’m just glad to have had the opportunity.

    Warts-and-all prototype experience, replete with glitches

    So to come merely to Catalunya and be able to drive for hours on end makes a welcome change. There’s also something rather real about doing this: normal car launches have such a pre-orchestrated feel to them as we glide between mirror-finish cars prepared to within an inch of their lives.

    This is not like that: the cars are filthy and, horror of horrors, one of them refused to release its handbrake when we pulled away from a stop. It took Porsche technicians (armed, interestingly, not with a jack and wheel wrench, but a laptop) almost 5 minutes to interrogate the offending ECU and persuade it to desist. These cars are prototypes; finding/ironing out tiny niggles is precisely why the cars are on this final European sign-off drive.

    Disguised and with their interiors cloaked in black felt, there is plenty about the Cayenne we cannot tell you either because that’s not part of the deal that got me into the cars in the first place or because Porsche hasn’t told me. But there’s plenty more that I can.

    Unsurprisingly the new Cayenne sits on the same Volkswagen Group MLB platform as the Audi Q7 and Bentley Bentayga. It will, in time, also provide the structural basis for the forthcoming Lamborghini Urus. But the platform has been modified for the Cayenne, its wheelbase shortened by no less than 100 mm because Porsche rates the agility this will gain above the interior space it will lose.

    Unlike in its sports cars, there is no such thing as a purely Porsche engine for cars like this anymore. The way the world works within the Volkswagen group is that one company gets to develop an engine which is then made available to all the others. In this case, the Cayenne will get all its V6 engines from Audi as well as the V8 turbodiesel, while the twin-turbo V8 petrol motor is Porsche’s own engine. There will be hybrids with both V6 and V8 engines, but as the car will be launched only with non-hybrid petrol engines, the Zuffenhausen-based firm isn’t talking about them at all.

    But nor does it really need to. Porsche engineers confirm that the Cayenne will use the same powertrain line-up as the Panamera with the important – and significant – difference that while the Panamera uses the lighter, faster PDK double clutch transmission, the Cayenne uses a new conventional 8-speed automatic gearbox from ZF. The reason? The gear shifts may be a touch more luxurious, but really it’s all about ensuring the Cayenne continues to be able to tow the maximum 3 500 kg load allowed by law. The PDK used in both the Panamera and Macan is rated only to 2 400 kg.

    So, using the Panamera as our guide, a base specification 3.0-litre Cayenne V6 should have around 246 kW. Even this slowest of the petrol-engined Cayennes will hit 100 kph from 0 in under 6 sec (that’s a staggering 1.9 sec faster than the car it replaces). The S uses the same engine, but with twin turbos and a 2.9-litre capacity (the stroke is a fraction shorter because of the need for an uprated crankshaft) and should pump out an impressive 328 kW with the 4-litre V8 Turbo offering 75 kW more even than that...

    Turbo derivative's air-sprung suspension impresses

    This is naturally frustrating. Show me someone who can tell you what a car is like from the passenger seat and I will show you, at best, a fantasist, at worst, someone who has put their desire to earn money ahead of their journalistic obligation to tell the truth. It does feel bloody fast and effortlessly so, and with 22 kW more than the old Cayenne Turbo – and a small weight reduction of around 60 kg, so it should. But cars also always feel much faster to those not driving them. I can tell you with rather greater authority that on standard air springs, this is the best riding Cayenne – ever.

    But soon I have what I really want: a steering wheel in my hand, albeit that of a Cayenne S. I don’t think I’m meant to give you precise details of the new interior but if you’ve read anything about the new Panamera cabin you’ll not find the interior architecture in here too surprising. It’s all TFT screens and pressure sensitive labels in place of proud standing buttons. And it looks brilliant, at least until covered in grubby fingerprints.

    And the car goes hard too, sensationally so given this is the one-off-the-bottom petrol model. Considering all there is to come – 2 more powerful hybrids, a GTS, Turbo and Turbo S versions – the performance of this S is incredible. I’m told it will reach 100 kph in under 5 sec and believe it.

    The way in which its performance is delivered is, however, a little less convincing. This is quite a small engine with quite a large output and, as ever with such motors, it needs to be worked to give its best. I have no problems with such an approach in Porsche sportscars, but in its SUVs I feel something more effortless based on low down torque rather than top-end power would suit the character of the car better. But the engine note is pleasant unless you rev the motor to the redline and the new gearbox works ceaselessly to make the most of the resources placed at its disposal.

    And on air springs with PASM (mere options on the S, unlike the Turbo) its road behaviour is close to impeccable. Its ride quality is serene and handling accurate and impressively capable. You don’t expect tall 2-tonne SUVs to cling doggedly to every corner into which they are flung, but this one does. My biggest concern was for the new electric steering system, the first to do without hydraulic-assistance in Cayenne history. As it turns out, the set-up is superb: sensibly geared, accurate and properly weighted too.

    There's a sense of driving fun... if you're happy to unearth it

    All that was missing was that heightened sense of fun, something I think should be expected of all Porsches, even those as heavy and domestically-oriented as this. I found it lurking, of all places, inside the base spec Cayenne V6. Though clearly slower than the S, I liked the lazier attitude of its less-stressed engine. There’s less torque, but it's developed further down the rev-range. I think it sounds a little better too.

    But the really big difference was on quick roads where the standard car turned out to be considerably more involving and therefore, fun, to drive. There was better feel from the chassis, an augmented sense of connection to the road, an approach that said not only that it could take anything you could ask of it, but it would rather enjoy the challenge.

    Why? To me the answer is simple: standard steel springs. Air suspension is excellent for high-speed ride and invaluable for towing and going off road because of its ability to maintain a number of different preset ride heights, but if you want to have fun behind the wheel, coil springs will not only bring you far closer to the action, they’ll cost a lot less too.

    Summary

    Overall I’d say the Porsche Cayenne – insofar as it is the best car in the class for those who appreciate driving – just got a whole lot better. Correctly specified the new Cayenne is at least as much fun as is predecessor (currently on sale), but with a transformed interior and notably better ride and refinement. It is a premium SUV that still appeals more to the head than the heart, but you can say as much about every conventional SUV on sale.

    Then again, I’d wait at least until we see the spec of the turbodiesels before choosing my favourite derivative. I expect the new V6 turbodiesel will have little less power than the petrol V6, but a stack more torque, which is exactly what cars like these respond to best. But whichever you chose, you can do so confident in the knowledge that the Cayenne remains today what it has always been: the best car... of its kind... in the world.

    http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/...-review/43820/

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    Porsche drops images of next-gen Cayenne testing

    Porsche has released a handful of images showing the new, third-generation Cayenne undergoing testing at various locations around the world.

    The German brand says the new version of its SUV has undergone “a complex and challenging series of examinations” in conditions ranging from -45°C to 50°C, with the prototypes and pre-series vehicles completing a total of about 4,4 million test kilometres.

    Due to be fully revealed on August 29, Porsche says the “drive, chassis, display and control concepts” of the new Cayenne have been redesigned to “further increase the spread between sportiness and comfort”.

    The new Cayenne will ride on the Volkswagen Group’s MLB Evo platform, which is already employed by the Audi Q7 and Bentley Bentayga, and is set to underpin the next-generation VW Touareg and upcoming Lamborghini Urus, too.

    “The main objective of the extensive testing process is to achieve a perfect balance between the many components, some of which were developed especially for the Cayenne,” Porsche said.

    Porsche revealed that prototypes of the new Cayenne were tested at the Hockenheimring, Nürburgring-Nordschleife and the 12,6-km high-speed track at Nardò, Italy.

    Materials, sensors and electronics had to prove their durability in wide-ranging climatic conditions, from the sand dunes of Dubai to the ice and snow of Alaska. Other noteworthy testing spots included stop-start traffic in various Chinese cities, master test tracks in Sweden, Finland and Spain, and off- and on-road testing in South Africa, Japan and New Zealand.

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    A peek at Porsche’s third-generation Cayenne

    Porsche is getting ready to unleash the third-generation of its successful Cayenne SUV, and has kicked off the teaser campaign with an album of pictures of lightly disguised prototypes undergoing endurance testing in extreme climates around the globe.

    Now we’re not sure if it’s just a case of clever disguise creating the illusion, but to our eyes the newcomer looks almost indistinguishably similar to the current Cayenne. But we’ll reserve judgement until the covers officially come off on August 29.

    What we do know is that this is far more than just a facelift, not only because Porsche is actually referring to it as a new generation, but because the sportscar maker claims to have redesigned the drivetrain and chassis as well as the "display and control concepts".

    So be sure to watch this space next week Tuesday, when all will be revealed.

    https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/lates...yenne-10877077

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    2018 Porsche Cayenne - first official pic shows Macan influence

    Next-generation Cayenne SUV will be based on the same platform as the new Audi Q7 and an all-electric powertrain could be offered

    The next Porsche Cayenne will have a design influenced the Macan, as shown by the first official picture to be released ahead of its reveal on the 29 August.

    Earlier sightings of development cars show that it'll also inherit a new taillight strip that connects both back light clusters from the 911.

    The light design is a significant change from the more conventional lights of the 2018 model's predecessors, although elsewhere the new Cayenne's look is more familiar.

    Sources believe the next-generation SUV could gain an all-electric powertrain, as previewed by the Mission E, but Porsche has so far remained tight-lipped about that possibility.

    Porsche has produced a new range of turbocharged engines for its latest 911 range and our sources suggest much of that technology development will be transferred into the large SUV. Its sister car, the Audi Q7, has recently gained smaller, more efficient engines across its line-up, giving some indication of what could feature in the 2018 Cayenne.

    The third-generation Cayenne is expected to be revealed later this year, before it arrives on UK roads in 2018. The future model is predicted to retain the range of variants offered with the current car, so its starting price shouldn't shift far from the current car's figure of £52,689.

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    I'm sure it's a great drive but it's a very meh looking car.
    Was driving behind a the similar looking Porsche Turbo Macan today and it's just not a car that turns heads at all.

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    Here's The 2018 Porsche Cayenne Before You're Supposed To See It

    The slightly redesigned 2018 Porsche Cayenne isn’t supposed to make its way before our eyes until Tuesday, but Fridays are more fun anyway. Here, have a look at some recently leaked photos that appear to be it. Stay awhile, if you’d like.

    CarScoops reports that you can expect a 3.0-liter turbo V6 with 330 horsepower and a twin-turbo 2.9-liter V6 with 440 HP when this thing launches, and that a plug-in hybrid will eventually be on its way. These photos leaked on AutoExpress four days ahead of the car’s debut, and, like all leaks, view them with a bit of doubt and the realization that the actual reveal is only a few days away.

    And, fear not, we’ll be here to update you on that reveal as well. We know it’s hard to contain your excitement for yet another luxury crossover, but please try. Maybe these will hold you over:

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    Not sure I like that long light strip across the back.

    May look better in real life.

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    New Porsche Cayenne Leaks Ahead of Debut

    Images of the all-new Porsche Cayenne have surfaced ahead of its international debut. Check out a full gallery of this new premium SUV.

    The new Porshe Cayenne is almost upon us and ahead of its imminent international debut, photos of it have appeared online. The looks are similar to that of the outgoing model at the front, but the rear has a similar light arrangement to that of the Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo. First impressions suggest that the new Porsche Cayenne is riding on a longer wheelbase.

    The real changes will be in the cabin and there will be many high-tech features fitted. The instrument cluster is now a digital affair and there's a huge infotainment system which sits in the middle of the dashboard. It features full digital functionality, just like that found in the Porsche Panamera. In terms of engines, we'll likely see a full and diverse portfolio of powerplants ranging from petrol, diesel to a plug-in hybrid unit. We'll keep you updated as soon as the official specification has been released.

    http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/...f-debut/43860/

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    First pictures of Porsche's new Cayenne leaked

    What appear to be official pictures of Porsche’s all-new Cayenne have leaked onto that leaky internet just days before the new SUV’s official unveiling.

    The third-generation Cayenne slots onto VW’s new MLB Evo platform, shared with the latest Audi Q7, although you wouldn’t immediately suspect it was an all-new product, given how evolutionary the design is from most angles, particularly the front and side.

    The biggest design departure takes place at the back, where it gets slimmer, more shapely taillights that are joined by a central strip with Porsche lettering.

    The cabin also looks markedly different, where it bears a resemblance to the latest Panamera, with a large central touchscreen that appears to have replaced many of the buttons and switches.

    The engines and other technical details remain under wraps for now, but it’s likely to offer the latest Panamera’s range of turbocharged V6 and V8 petrol and diesel engines, with a few hybrid variants thrown in for good measure.

    Full details are due to be revealed by Porsche on Tuesday August 29.

    https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/lates...eaked-10968207

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    Porsche introduced the third generation of the Cayenne. This successful model from the Stuttgart-based sports car manufacturer is launching as a completely new development and will combine even more of the typical Porsche performance with excellent everyday practicality. Its powerful turbo engines, new eight-speed Tiptronic S gearbox, new chassis systems and innovative display and control concept with total connectivity will take both sport and comfort to the next level. At market launch, there are two newly developed six-cylinder engines to choose from: The Cayenne's 250-kW (340 hp), three-litre turbo engine delivers 29 kW (40 hp) more than the previous model. The 2.9-litre V6 biturbo engine in the Cayenne S, which reaches speeds of up to 265 km/h, brings it up to 324 kW (440 hp) - an increase of 15 kW (20 hp). Equipped with the optional Sport Chrono Package, the new Cayenne S accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in less than five seconds.

    The Porsche Cayenne is based heavily on the iconic 911 sports car: The third edition of the SUV, which has also been enhanced visually, now has mixed tyres and rear-axle steering for the first time. In addition to these typical sports car features, the on-road capabilities are further improved by active all-wheel drive as standard, Porsche 4D Chassis Control, three-chamber air suspension and the Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) electronic roll stabilisation system. Despite its significantly extended standard equipment, the Cayenne weighs up to 65 kilograms less than its predecessor and remains perfectly suited to off-road use.

    Cayenne and Cayenne S market launch

    The new Porsche SUV is launching in two variants: The Porsche Cayenne with a six-cylinder turbo engine and displacement of three litres delivers 250 kW (340 hp), developing a torque of 450 Nm. That means that even the standard model achieves outstanding driving performance: It accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in 6.2 seconds (5.9 seconds with the Sport Chrono Package). The maximum speed is 245 km/h. The second model to launch is the Cayenne S. It is driven by a 2.9-litre V6 engine with twin turbocharging. This engine, which has also been newly developed, delivers 324 kW (440 hp), achieving a torque of 550 Nm - 15 kW (20 hp) more than its predecessor. Accordingly, the vehicle accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in just 5.2 seconds (with Sport Chrono Package: 4.9 seconds). The maximum speed is 265 km/h.

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    New Porsche Cayenne revealed - full details of revamped SUV

    Restyled third generation Cayenne is lighter and more powerful, with revamped interior

    he new Porsche Cayenne 
has been revealed, with the firm saying that it has taken a "no compromise" approach to the SUV.

    The third generation Cayenne has been thoroughly revamped and re-engineered despite only receiving a mild exterior design revamp. It has a lighter and more contemporary platform, an aluminium body structure, a 48V electrical system and a redesigned interior with added connectivity options.

    “The new Cayenne is a Porsche by all means and with no compromises,” said Porsche CEO Oliver Blume, speaking at the Cayenne’s launch. “Never before has it borrowed so much from the 911.”

    The third-generation Cayenne will make its public debut at the Frankfurt motor show in September, with UK deliveries starting next April. It will face a long list of luxury rivals, including the Audi Q7, BMW X5, Jaguar F-Pace, Mercedes-Benz GLE and Range Rover Sport.

    The 2018-model-year Cayenne will initially have 
a two-variant line-up, the Cayenne and Cayenne S. Both run newly developed V6 petrol engines in combination with a new eight-speed automatic gearbox and four-wheel drive that has five driving modes to suit the terrain: On-Road, Mud, Gravel, Sand and Rocks.

    The Cayenne runs the same turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 as the new Panamera. With 335bhp and 332lb ft, it delivers 40bhp and 37lb ft more than the previous Cayenne’s naturally aspirated 3.6-litre V6. The new price-leading model covers 0-62mph in 6.2sec (5.9sec with an optional Sport Chrono Package) and has a 152mph top speed. That’s 1.4sec quicker and 9mph more than the old model.

    The Cayenne S receives a more powerful 2.9-litre turbo V6. With 434bhp and 405lb ft, it packs 20bhp and the same torque as the naturally aspirated 3.6-litre V6 engine it replaces. Porsche claims 0-62mph in 5.2sec (4.9sec with the Sport Chrono Package) and a top speed of 165mph, improvements of 0.3sec and 4mph over the outgoing Cayenne S.

    Further models are due to reach showrooms by the end of next year. They include a pair of plug-in hybrids running the same petrol-electric driveline combinations introduced to the 455bhp Panamera E-Hybrid and 666bhp Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid. There will also be a range-topping Cayenne Turbo sporting a twin-turbo 4.0-litre V8 with more than 540bhp.

    Because of regulatory problems in its home market, Porsche is yet to confirm any diesel engines for its latest Cayenne. But with existing diesels models accounting for a large percentage of sales in many key markets, including the UK, successors to the outgoing Cayenne Diesel and Diesel S are expected — with the Diesel S running a 416bhp turbo 4.0-litre V8 that’s also used in the Panamera.

    Porsche’s new SUV is based around the latest MLB architecture of sister firm Audi. The MLB platform underpins the Audi Q7 and Bentley Bentayga and is set to be adopted by the upcoming new Volkswagen Touareg and Lamborghini Urus.

    The new Cayenne is claimed to have shed up to 65kg 
in its most basic form, at 1985kg, despite what Porsche describes as significantly extended standard equipment.

    The Cayenne has also grown, albeit only slightly. At 4918mm, it is 63mm longer than the outgoing model. Width is also up by 44mm,
at 1983mm, although height has been reduced by 9mm to 1694mm. Despite the increase in length, the wheelbase is still 2895mm.

    Although the exterior represents a clear evolution of the outgoing model, the interior of the new Cayenne has been revamped. A newly styled dashboard features a combination of analogue and digital instruments as well
 as a centre console with the same touch-sensitive controls and 12.3in touchscreen as the Panamera. Luggage space has risen by 100 litres over the old Cayenne, at 770 litres.

    Porsche is already talking up the dynamic properties of its new model. Together with the reduction in weight, the Cayenne adopts an aluminium- intensive chassis with double- wishbone front and multi-link rear suspension. It comes with a Porsche 4D Chassis Control system and, on the Cayenne
 S, Porsche Active Suspension Management with variable- rate dampers.

    As with all Porsches, there is an optional Sport Chrono Package with four modes: Normal, Sport, Sport Plus and an individually configurable setting. A Sport Response function sets the mapping for the engine and transmission to their most performance-orientated settings.

    In a further development, the optional Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), which provides roll stabilisation by acting on the roll bars to counteract body lean in corners, dispenses with hydraulic control for a new electrically operated system that’s claimed to provide faster response times. The SUV also receives optional rear-wheel steering.

    The new Cayenne is already available to order
in the UK. The entry-
level model is priced from £55,965, with the Cayenne S costing £68,330.

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...s-revamped-suv

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    MEET THE NEW, THIRD-GENERATION PORSCHE CAYENNE

    Porsche has whipped the covers off its new, third-generation Cayenne, which runs on the Volkswagen Group’s latest MLB Evo platform already underpinning the Audi Q7 and Bentley Bentayga.

    While the styling changes are typically evolutionary, the latest Cayenne does boast a new eight-speed Tiptronic S transmission, new chassis systems and a fresh “display and control” concept, along with two newly developed six-cylinder engines (expect the line-up to be expanded in the coming months).

    At launch, there will be a 3,0-litre turbocharged petrol mill worth 250 kW (up 29 kW on its predecessor) and 450 N.m, which the German automaker says will allow a 0-100 km/h time of 6,2 seconds (or three-tenths quicker with the Sport Chrono Package fitted). The maximum speed for this engine is 245 km/h.

    The Cayenne S, meanwhile, will employ the group’s new 2,9-litre V6 biturbo unit, which in this application makes 324 kW and 550 N.m, taking the vehicle to speeds “up to 265 km/h”. Fitted with the optional Sport Chrono Package, Porsche says the new Cayenne S sprints from zero to 100 km/h in 4,9 seconds (or 5,2 without).

    The third incarnation of the Cayenne has mixed tyres and rear-axle steering for the first time, and features all-wheel drive as standard. Updated chassis control systems and a new three-chamber air suspension system will also be on offer.

    Porsche has seen fit to increase the Cayenne’s length by 63 mm to 4 918 mm, while keeping the 2 895 mm wheelbase unchanged. Roof height, meanwhile, has been cut by 9 mm. The luggage compartment can swallow a claimed 770 litres, which is 100 litres up on the second-generation Cayenne. Overall, the new Cayenne weighs up to 65 kg less than its predecessor.

    Inside, you’ll find the new Porsche Advanced Cockpit, along with the 12,3-inch full-HD touchscreen we’ve already seen in the new Panamera. The setup includes a central analogue tachometer flanked by two 7-inch full-HD displays.

    http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/me...rsche-cayenne/

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