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    Quote Originally Posted by ponder View Post
    That's what I don't get either. Let them have a legal referendum like scotland had, if you are so sure of the outcome then there should be no issues.
    Because the government wanted to avoid a potential
    Brexit repeat (the vote not being what was expected).

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    Because the government wanted to avoid a potential
    Brexit repeat (the vote not being what was expected).
    So they are only interested in a single outcome and if they can't be assured of that then there will be no vote for the catalans as the gov does not want them to leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponder View Post
    So they are only interested in a single outcome and if they can't be assured of that then there will be no vote for the catalans as the gov does not want them to leave?
    Wasnít it pretty much the same with Scotland ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    800 people seen by doctors. Read the article I posted, read the statements.

    4 required treatment and 2 were admitted in hospital, itís hardly a massacre as the Catalan government wants to make it look like.

    The anti riot policemen are trained to hurt without injuring people, hence the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    Wasn’t it pretty much the same with Scotland ?
    There wasn't a overwhelming 'no' result, 5% is pretty close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post

    The anti riot policemen are trained to hurt without injuring people, hence the result.
    They're the fashion police?
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    ... trust me I will feel threatened when you come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponder View Post
    So they are only interested in a single outcome and if they can't be assured of that then there will be no vote for the catalans as the gov does not want them to leave?
    It's not in Spain's interest for them to split
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja'd View Post
    They're the fashion police?
    They just know how to restrain and hit while causing minimal injuries. Itís actually why anti riot units are special units and what they train for all year long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    Because the government wanted to avoid a potential
    Brexit repeat (the vote not being what was expected).
    So we should only allow people to vote if we get the result we want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    They just know how to restrain and hit while causing minimal injuries. It’s actually why anti riot units are special units and what they train for all year long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    They just know how to restrain and hit while causing minimal injuries. It’s actually why anti riot units are special units and what they train for all year long.
    so being injured enough to receive treatment from a damn doctor is what you call "minimal"?!? It only registers once you have been messed up enough to need hospital treatment?

    We have wildly varying ideas of what constitutes minimal injuries if that is the case, wow
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    Source: Catalonia’s parliament to defy Spanish courts over independence vote

    No surprise there, bring on Monday for more gestapo action on youtube
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaunSA View Post
    So we should only allow people to vote if we get the result we want?
    Please read the full story before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independence

    You canít exactly say that the Spanish government has let down the Catalan aspirations with the statute of autonomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowBandFtw View Post
    Source: Catalonia’s parliament to defy Spanish courts over independence vote

    No surprise there, bring on Monday for more gestapo action on youtube
    "Opinion polls conducted before the vote suggest a minority of around 40 percent of residents in Catalonia back independence"
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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    Please read the full story before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independence
    You can’t exactly say that the Spanish government has let down the Catalan aspirations with the statute of autonomy.
    Yes you can, they didn't like the legal result in 2014 and declared it illegal and pursued court action against the leaders who sanctioned it. Running up to 2014 from 2009 almost every single poll, survey and vote has favoured independence. 2017 is just another confirmation of a majority sentiment they already know exists, hence why this one is labelled illegal and why police were sent to use violence.

    Try and focus on the past decade instead of all time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catala...ferendum,_2014
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