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    This is pretty wild.

    House Intel Republicans plan to wall off their aides from Democratic staffers

    In a sign of increasing partisan hostilities, Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee plan to construct a wall – a physical partition – separating Republican and Democratic staff members in the committee's secure spaces, according to multiple committee sources. It's expected to happen this spring.

    For now, some Republican committee members deny knowing anything about it, while strongly suggesting the division is the brainchild of the committee's chairman, Devin Nunes, R-California.

    ...

    "I swear to God I didn't know that," said Rep. Tom Rooney, R-Florida, when asked about the plan. While acknowledging a wall might not be constructive for the committee's work, he said, "The level of trust and the level of everything down there is – it's poison. It's absolute poison down there."

    Rooney said one reason for the tension is an erosion of trust, exacerbated by an ongoing ethics investigation into the "entire Republican staff," including "the woman up front that answers the phone" for alleged leaks. He later added that the matter was being handled by the Office of Congressional Ethics.
    "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese."

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg0205 View Post
    What fantasy world are you living in? You wanting the case against Flynn to go away and wingnuts on Fox pushing for it doesn't mean it's happening.
    But it is happening.

    In the real world, Flynn has plead guilty and is cooperating with Muller... Show me the video of a judge throwing out the case and you'll get your yarn... 'Till then, the OT thread is that way ----->


    Quoting from earlier...
    Lawyers for General Mike Flynn will shortly file a motion to dismiss all the charges filed against him, based on reports now confirmed by The Hill [snip] that Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe told a teleconference of law enforcement officials, “first we ***** Flynn, then we ***** Trump.”

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...tencing-287001

    President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, will face a different judge to be sentenced than the one who took Flynn’s guilty plea to a felony false statement charge last week, court records show.

    Judge Emmet Sullivan was randomly assigned to take over the case after Judge Rudolph Contreras recused himself.
    Rudolph Contreras, Rudolph Contreras, where have I heard that name before?

    WASHINGTON — Judge Rudolph Contreras was responsible for issuing the FISA Warrant to wiretap former Trump Campaign Foreign Policy Adviser Carter Page, according to two sources familiar with the material that underlies the Memo published by the House Intelligence Committee on Friday.

    Contreras was appointed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) by Chief Justice John Roberts in the midst of the 2016 election, being sworn-in on May 19, 2016. He would go on to issue authorization to spy on Carter Page after receiving an application from the FBI, who purported to believe that Carter Page could be acting as an agent of the Russian Government. The FISA Court has received more than 34,000 applications to spy on Americans since its founding in 1978, turning down only 12 applications in that time, or just .0312%.
    https://offendedamerica.com/identity...udge-revealed/

    Well ain't that a coinkidink!
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    Rand Paul doing what he does best.
    Paul was technically allowed to hold up the vote until 1 a.m., and he did so, holding up the voting until 1 a.m. -- that is, one hour after the shutdown was set to begin. The Senate is able to vote on final passage no earlier than about 2:30 a.m. Then, the president still has to sign any bill.

    Senate leadership aides say they think they can get the continuing resolution to the House about an hour after the Senate votes, meaning that the earliest the House could vote is between 3 and 5 a.m. This means that a short term shutdown of just a few hours could well be over by the time government workers wake up Friday morning.

    On the Senate floor Thursday night, Paul railed against his own party for allowing greater spending, deficits and ultimately debt. Paul railed against government spending on everything from Afghanistan to misspent funds diverted from school lunch programs, saying both parties are "spending us into oblivion."

    "How come you were against President Obama's deficits, and then how come you're for Republican deficits? Isn't that the very definition of intellectual dishonesty?" he demanded.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/congres...inkId=47907355

    I am with Rand on this one.

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    Poor Rand Paul. Even if he was president, there is nothing he can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konfab View Post
    Rand Paul doing what he does best.


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/congres...inkId=47907355

    I am with Rand on this one.
    It's more consistent than other Repubs, but he still gleefully voted for a tax bill that blows a giant hole in the deficit, so not exactly consistent either.
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    Ouch...

    One retiring Republican lawmaker, Rep. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania, went further.

    “When Rand Paul pulls a stunt like this, it easy to understand why it's difficult to be Rand Paul's next door neighbor,” said Dent, referring to the neighbor who assaulted Paul last year, breaking several of his ribs and sending him to the hospital. “The whole delay and filibuster exercise on the budget agreement is utterly pointless.”
    "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese."

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    The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than a thousand points on Thursday.This week has so far seen the second-biggest weekly drop in history, coming in slightly behind the week that ended on Oct. 10, 2008. If the Dow drops 214 points on Friday, it will be the worst week in history.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...mpression=true

    I guess the stock market didnt listen to Trump.Bad! Sick! Stock market. Possibility of beating the financial meltdown of 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhappy438 View Post
    I guess the stock market didnt listen to Trump.Bad! Sick! Stock market. Possibility of beating the financial meltdown of 2008.
    It's not a possibility, it is a guarantee, if not now then somewhere in the future. The 2008 crash has never been "recovered" from, all the excessive money printing merely re-inflated what was already the biggest bubble in history. Bigger bubble than 2008 = bigger crash (eventually) than 2008.

    Just a pity Trump's hubris has him associating himself with a crash that was entirely engineered by his predecessor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrbitalDawn View Post
    It's more consistent than other Repubs, but he still gleefully voted for a tax bill that blows a giant hole in the deficit, so not exactly consistent either.
    That is perfectly consistent from his viewpoint, as he believes in low taxes+low spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowBandFtw View Post
    It's not a possibility, it is a guarantee, if not now then somewhere in the future. The 2008 crash has never been "recovered" from, all the excessive money printing merely re-inflated what was already the biggest bubble in history. Bigger bubble than 2008 = bigger crash (eventually) than 2008.

    Just a pity Trump's hubris has him associating himself with a crash that was entirely engineered by his predecessor.
    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhappy438 View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...mpression=true

    I guess the stock market didnt listen to Trump.Bad! Sick! Stock market. Possibility of beating the financial meltdown of 2008.
    I posted this in the Trump thread a few days ago(but it was swamped by $hitposting). This correction actually appears to be the result of a healthy economy.


    Others blamed the Fed for the market breakdown, or least the mentality that led to the selling climate.

    The central bank, following its meeting last week, noted that inflation looked to be on the uptick. That put the market on notice, a point that was echoed when the government Friday said average hourly earnings rose 2.9 percent in January, the fastest move of the recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konfab View Post
    I posted this in the Trump thread a few days ago(but it was swamped by $hitposting). This correction actually appears to be the result of a healthy economy.
    Except it isn't. The only reason the market would react so dramatically to the mere prospect of higher interest rates is if they're swimming naked and worried about the tide going out. A healthy economy wouldn't fear higher interest rates to this extent.
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    Boom! Headshot.
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    Xarog.

    Stop posting your stupid conspiracy theory bulls**t here.

    You are becoming extremely tiresome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhappy438 View Post
    I guess the stock market didnt listen to Trump.Bad! Sick! Stock market. Possibility of beating the financial meltdown of 2008.
    its still at crazy levels much higher than 2008, I'm guessing off the top of my head the DOW is twice that it was in 2008, even after these events, and that's just 10 years ago

    so in my view if its to beat that meltdown, it still has far to go, even if the index goes below 20 000 it still won't be cause for alarm
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