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    Default Toyota Etios query

    I've had three Toyota Yaris' but traded the last one in for a new Etios.


    If I'm cruising and turn on the air-con it feels like I just pulled the handbrake up two clicks. Turn it off and it's smooth riding again.

    Just checking if this is normal as I never experienced it with the Yaris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveza View Post
    I've had three Toyota Yaris' but traded the last one in for a new Etios.


    If I'm cruising and turn on the air-con it feels like I just pulled the handbrake up two clicks. Turn it off and it's smooth riding again.

    Just checking if this is normal as I never experienced it with the Yaris.
    Which Yaris were you driving, 1.0l or 1.3? The 1.3 is fairly powerful and its easy to miss the aircon engaging. My car does have a noticeable hesitation when the aircon is on especially when there's a demand for power, I can feel the aircon switching off and the extra kilowatts coming back.
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    What engine in the Etios? I have a 1.2 Micra and putting the aircon on feels similar to hitching a trailer at 120km/h.
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    Pretty normal.

    Aircon steals about 6hp if I remember correctly.

    On an already horse power compromised engine that's a big chunk to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrBaN963 View Post
    What engine in the Etios? I have a 1.2 Micra and putting the aircon on feels similar to hitching a trailer at 120km/h.
    Etios is 1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumen View Post
    Etios is 1.5
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    What is the steering system on the Etios? the Yaris had a electric power steering which I think eliminates the load on the engine compared to a hydraulic steering which is driven by the auxiliary belt off the engine.
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    Had same problem with Avanza....don't touch hydraulic air conditioner......waste of time.

    Sold the car very quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musicmp3 View Post
    Had same problem with Avanza....don't touch hydraulic air conditioner......waste of time.

    Sold the car very quickly
    So on modern cars both the aircon compressor and the power steering are electric?
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    I suppose it differs from car to car, but I too notice a discernible difference in the engine when the climate control is on compared to when it is off. Especially in Eco mode. When the aircon is on, soon as you put your foot down when you pull away and the revs reaches 2.5 - 3000 revs, you can feel it hesitate. It is almost as if power delivery falls flat or the engine runs out of breath. As a passenger you wont notice it, but as with when you switch driving modes (Sport down to Eco) you can feel that change in the engine happening when you are the one driving.

    When the aircon is off the car pulls fine still after that rev range. I suppose it is only in cars with really big engines where you will not feel the difference compared to when the aircon is on or off.
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    Yaris has eletric motor for the AC, the ETOSS runs the AC from the belt of the engine which eats up the power.

    I have driven 1.0L yaris, has no power loss with AC on.
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    you can feel it hesitate. It is almost as if power delivery falls flat or the engine runs out of breath.
    That's exactly how it feels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtx Gaming View Post
    Yaris has eletric motor for the AC, the ETOSS runs the AC from the belt of the engine which eats up the power.

    I have driven 1.0L yaris, has no power loss with AC on.
    On our 1 litre up you also don't feel a pronounced difference when putting the AC on. On the old 9N3 (facelift model, not sure of code), it was as if you just lost a crap load of power on the car.

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    So what are the effects apart from the drop in performance - any difference in fuel consumption when using the air-con ?

    It just feels like the engine needs to work harder, how would this affect the engine say from a Cape Town to Jhb trip with air-con on all the way ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveza View Post
    So what are the effects apart from the drop in performance - any difference in fuel consumption when using the air-con ?

    It just feels like the engine needs to work harder, how would this affect the engine say from a Cape Town to Jhb trip with air-con on all the way ?
    Fuel consumption will increase slightly.
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