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    Reporters Without Borders (RSF) condemns today’s decision by a Moscow court to order the immediate blocking of the popular encrypted messaging service Telegram after it refused to surrender its encryption keys to the Russian intelligence agencies. The decision represents yet another escalation in online censorship and an additional obstacle to journalism in Russia, RSF said.

    Telegram is expected to be blocked very soon as a result of the order issued today by Moscow’s Tagansky district court in response to a request by the Russian telecommunications regulator Roskomnadzor.

    Telegram’s lawyers did not attend the hearing, which lasted barely one hour, saying they did not wanted to legitimize an “obvious farce” by their presence. Telegram had been asked to hand over the encryption keys under Russia’s 2016 anti-terrorism law. The app is very popular in Russia, where it has more than 10 million users and is widely used by reporters, who rely on its encryption to protect the identity of their sources.

    “By blocking Telegram, the Russian authorities are crossing another red line in their control of the Internet,” said Johann Bihr, the head of RSF’s Eastern Europe and Central Asia desk.

    “This is a major new blow to free speech in Russia. It also sends a strong intimidatory signal to the digital technology giants that are battling with the Russian authorities. The authorities are targeting a tool that is essential for the work of journalists, especially for the confidentiality of their sources and data.”


    Russia is ranked 148th out of 180 countries in RSF's 2017 World Press Freedom Index.

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    I guess that excludes the Rodina as a place to emigrate to.
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    they are still using it there, dont know what they crying is about.

    doctors without borders, reporters without borders. is this "... without borders" thing a large company or just a naming trend?

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    Another Russian journalist, Maxim Borodin, had an "accident" and "fell" out a window.

    Short thread on others who have had "accidents" in recent times for investigating Putin and his buddies.

    https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/st...10021396549632
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrbitalDawn View Post
    Another Russian journalist, Maxim Borodin, had an "accident" and "fell" out a window.

    Short thread on others who have had "accidents" in recent times for investigating Putin and his buddies.

    https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/st...10021396549632
    you do know there are other people that kill too right?

    gangs/mafia involved with corrupt government employees protecting their interests.

    extreme fascists dont like people badmouthing there country or leader etc.

    getting too close to underground terror groups..

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    Quote Originally Posted by access View Post
    you do know there are other people that kill too right?

    gangs/mafia involved with corrupt government employees protecting their interests.

    extreme fascists dont like people badmouthing there country or leader etc.

    getting too close to underground terror groups..
    Sure, that happens, too. In Russia it's part of the same ecosystem, since the country is basically run like a mafia.

    I mean, the police here immediately ruled out foul play... where a day before the guy's building was surrounded by dudes with camouflage clothing and assault rifles and then he randomly falls out of a window.

    If you think it's coincidental that this happens at a rate of knots, I have a bridge to sell you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lled_in_Russia
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrbitalDawn View Post
    Sure, that happens, too. In Russia it's part of the same ecosystem, since the country is basically run like a mafia.

    I mean, the police here immediately ruled out foul play... where a day before the guy's building was surrounded by dudes with camouflage clothing and assault rifles and then he randomly falls out of a window.

    If you think it's coincidental that this happens at a rate of knots, I have a bridge to sell you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lled_in_Russia
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrbitalDawn View Post
    Sure, that happens, too. In Russia it's part of the same ecosystem, since the country is basically run like a mafia.

    I mean, the police here immediately ruled out foul play... where a day before the guy's building was surrounded by dudes with camouflage clothing and assault rifles and then he randomly falls out of a window.

    If you think it's coincidental that this happens at a rate of knots, I have a bridge to sell you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lled_in_Russia
    Conspiracy guys have been saying the same thing about other countries too. You are exacly like Alex Jones, just for the other side.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States
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    Quote Originally Posted by rietrot View Post
    Conspiracy guys has been saying the same thing about other countries too. You are exacly like Alex Jones, just for the other side.
    ^ this, shall we go find a list of all the people who crossed the Clintons and mysteriously disappeared? That would be tinfoil hat stuff right? No proof right? Well *****, this is the exact same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by rietrot View Post
    Conspiracy guys has been saying the same thing about other countries too. You are exacly like Alex Jones, just for the other side.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States
    LOL at the comparison...

    No of US journalists killed since 1992 - 8

    No of Russian journalists killed since 1992 - 165 (excluding terrorism or crossfire)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cray View Post
    LOL at the comparison...

    No of US journalists killed since 1992 - 8

    No of Russian journalists killed since 1992 - 165 (excluding terrorism or crossfire)
    That's was just a quick reference to show that it does happen. One journalist being killed for doing actual investigative journalism is one too many. They are extremely rare as it is.

    If you want me to complete with OD and post full on conspiracy BS, I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrbitalDawn View Post
    Sure, that happens, too. In Russia it's part of the same ecosystem, since the country is basically run like a mafia.
    As the saying goes

    "Every country has its own mafia. In Russia the mafia has its own country."
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    Quote Originally Posted by rietrot View Post
    Conspiracy guys have been saying the same thing about other countries too. You are exacly like Alex Jones, just for the other side.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States
    Totally. An autocratic regime killing journalists is exactly the same as someone ranting about literal gates to hell being opened or that mass shootings are faked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unhappy438 View Post
    As the saying goes

    "Every country has its own mafia. In Russia the mafia has its own country."
    That's a good saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrbitalDawn View Post
    Sure, that happens, too. In Russia it's part of the same ecosystem, since the country is basically run like a mafia.

    I mean, the police here immediately ruled out foul play... where a day before the guy's building was surrounded by dudes with camouflage clothing and assault rifles and then he randomly falls out of a window.

    If you think it's coincidental that this happens at a rate of knots, I have a bridge to sell you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lled_in_Russia
    yeah i saw that, did they wait around a day in his apartment before they threw him out? i wonder if he was threatened to do it himself somehow. its not only government that dress up in covert ninja clothing either btw..

    so that wiki link of the journalists you keep posting, its ok to draw that conclusion against russia because "russia", but not for a different sector in a different country, then its hysteria. strange world.


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    How do they plan to "block" telegram?

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