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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterBee View Post
    Those single member or two member, low consumption households will be hit really hard. Seems unfair and discriminatory. Example :

    Retired pensioner living alone on a fixed income, will pay R150 towards the City's distribution costs.

    Next door, two income earners and three kids will pay R30 each towards those costs, but will consume maybe 6 times more electricity.

    Down the road, three dwellings on one property with one meter, whose 13 inhabitants will pay R11 each towards distribution costs, but consume maybe 20 times as much as the pensioner. Across the valley, a household with 3 income earners will contribute nothing, as the municipal "valuation" is less than R1 million.

    What are the main distribution costs? Not the cable to home, or the cable running down the road. Its the sub-stations, high voltage underground transmission cabling, switching, power stations, and the personnel costs. These are not dependent on the number of households connected to the system, but more by the quantity of units consumed by the inhabitants of those same households.

    How can you justify charging distribution costs on any basis other than units consumed?

    Its like arriving at a petrol station and being asked to pay a fixed fee based on the value of your vehicle, to cover infrastructure costs, and then another fee per litre of petrol supplied.

    Or am I missing something ?
    We've had service charge and network charge in Johannesburg for at least 13 years. You pay 500 before you've even used a unit. Unless you're prepaid
    I've been around for a long, long year

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterBee View Post
    Those single member or two member, low consumption households will be hit really hard. Seems unfair and discriminatory. Example :

    Retired pensioner living alone on a fixed income, will pay R150 towards the City's distribution costs.

    Next door, two income earners and three kids will pay R30 each towards those costs, but will consume maybe 6 times more electricity.

    Down the road, three dwellings on one property with one meter, whose 13 inhabitants will pay R11 each towards distribution costs, but consume maybe 20 times as much as the pensioner. Across the valley, a household with 3 income earners will contribute nothing, as the municipal "valuation" is less than R1 million.

    What are the main distribution costs? Not the cable to home, or the cable running down the road. Its the sub-stations, high voltage underground transmission cabling, switching, power stations, and the personnel costs. These are not dependent on the number of households connected to the system, but more by the quantity of units consumed by the inhabitants of those same households.

    How can you justify charging distribution costs on any basis other than units consumed?

    Its like arriving at a petrol station and being asked to pay a fixed fee based on the value of your vehicle, to cover infrastructure costs, and then another fee per litre of petrol supplied.

    Or am I missing something ?
    There is a fixed cost and the subsidization thing must not be working any more, people are using less and less electricity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersunbird View Post
    There is a fixed cost and the subsidization thing must not be working any more, people are using less and less electricity?
    No, the issue is that not enough people are paying for electricity.

    If circa 10% of the population is paying, and 90% of the population is freeloading or stealing, costs don't get covered.
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