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Thread: Unions fume over Eskom's 0% wage offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnome View Post
    My point is, if your senior management and executives makes up a small percentage of the work force, for them to push up the average that high means they either need to be earning orders of magnitude more or something else is afoot

    As the article stated, there are "consulting fees" being bucketed as employee salaries
    As the article on ewn states, Ghordhan is reported as saying their senior management level rose from 80 to 400/500 today. They're simply too top heavy a part of which was to inflate EE numbers and that probably ended up with people in sm who can't perform and as a guy I worked with once said, they hire a helper to help the helper who then can't cope and they in turn hire someone else to help that person. And you're right they must be running on consultants and independent contractors given the zeal with which they got rid of experienced people to make way for EE.
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    Eskom wage negotiations enter final day

    It is believed that unions have tabled demands which include a 9% wage hike for 2018, plus 8.6% and 8.5% for the following two years.

    Wage negotiations between Eskom and trade unions will on Thursday enter the final day after workers rejected the 4.7 percent wage offer from the embattled power utility.

    Trade unions on Wednesday said they presented a consolidated wage proposal to Eskom as talks resumed for a second day this week after Eskom agreed to withdraw its zero percent wage offer from the table. The unions would not divulge details of the offer, saying it was a “delicate process” which should not be negotiated in the media.
    More at : https://citizen.co.za/news/south-afr...nter-final-day
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    Are they still fuming... and gumming up the works with fumes?

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    If they put forward a multiyear increase plan... Then I expect Eskom to have a clause that any striking during that period over increases will result in instant dismissal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicBunny View Post
    If they put forward a multiyear increase plan... Then I expect Eskom to have a clause that any striking during that period over increases will result in instant dismissal.
    I expect the same. And agreed with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicBunny View Post
    If they put forward a multiyear increase plan... Then I expect Eskom to have a clause that any striking during that period over increases will result in instant dismissal.
    And if the employer does not honour the agreement? it happens you know, ask Solidarity what happened at Telkom, the employer plainly refused to honour the agreement which they signed, Solidarity went to court and won, instead of finally honouring the agreement, books came out, membership verifications started, Solidarity and Sacu were found to not have enough members, union recognition revoked, SACU formed a joint venture with CWU and Solidarity was out in the cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechamp View Post
    And if the employer does not honour the agreement? it happens you know, ask Solidarity what happened at Telkom, the employer plainly refused to honour the agreement which they signed, Solidarity went to court and won, instead of finally honouring the agreement, books came out, membership verifications started, Solidarity and Sacu were found to not have enough members, union recognition revoked, SACU formed a joint venture with CWU and Solidarity was out in the cold.
    The answer is in your post. They can approach the courts via their union, not through a strike...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechamp View Post
    And if the employer does not honour the agreement? it happens you know, ask Solidarity what happened at Telkom, the employer plainly refused to honour the agreement which they signed, Solidarity went to court and won, instead of finally honouring the agreement, books came out, membership verifications started, Solidarity and Sacu were found to not have enough members, union recognition revoked, SACU formed a joint venture with CWU and Solidarity was out in the cold.
    You answered your own question....
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    I must be retarded then

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    Speaking of 'fume' - heard jhbs on fire again? anyone know whats happening? I'm assuming more cables thieves set themselves on fire underground?


    Edit: Nevermind found some news
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