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    Quote Originally Posted by supersunbird View Post
    Well, then you should hope that Eskom wins in court against Nersa and get their 19% increase so that you and the rest of us can subsidize the non payers.
    Because the two options are:

    1. Back to apartheid
    2. Grant Eskom 19.9%?

    You really canít think of anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWizard View Post
    STRANGE
    That these "problems" ONLY seemed to appear AFTER "democracy"
    Sure in the "old days" there were small "problems" here and these
    BUT
    Eskom managed to provide power at affordable rates AND municipalities PAID their bills
    Granted not EVERYONE had electricity
    HOWEVER ....
    Those that DID -- DID PAY FOR IT !
    you forget, the opportunity to excel at something or create a respectable household or was not promoted as much as giving people everything for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    Because the two options are:

    1. Back to apartheid
    2. Grant Eskom 19.9%?

    You really can’t think of anything else?
    Yeah whatever mate

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    Hey ANC promised free electricity ... they are delivering on that promise

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyLoop View Post
    I hope you are not longing for the old days..
    I for one am glad those days are gone. I couldn't quite frankly handle the BS of the former regime and wanted to leave SA.
    Of COURSE I long for the "old-days"

    I grew up as a privileged white person in a country where EVERYTHING worked
    and
    Where crime was unheard of and non-existent
    Where one could travel safely and freely -- at 40c a GALLON
    Where corruption was minimal and involved millions NOT BILLIONS
    When South Africa was nearly -- paradise.

    I feel VERY sorry for people that never experienced what it was like to live a happy and normal life
    ( As understood by people used to a FIRST WORLD advanced technical western democratic CIVILISATION )

    Sure this might have been unpleasant for others .......
    However
    "They" have now had more than twenty years of running ruining the country according to "their" particular ideas of how things should be done -- as in the rest of the "Dark-Continent" -- apparently -- turd world shyte-holes
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWizard View Post
    Of COURSE I long for the "old-days"

    I grew up as a privileged white person in a country where EVERYTHING worked
    and
    Where crime was unheard of and non-existent
    Where one could travel safely and freely -- at 40c a GALLON
    Where corruption was minimal and involved millions NOT BILLIONS
    When South Africa was nearly -- paradise.

    I feel VERY sorry for people that never experienced what it was like to live a happy and normal life
    ( As understood by people used to a FIRST WORLD advanced technical western democratic CIVILISATION )

    Sure this might have been unpleasant for others .......
    However
    "They" have now had more than twenty years of running ruining the country according to "their" particular ideas of how things should be done -- as in the rest of the "Dark-Continent" -- apparently -- turd world shyte-holes
    How old are you? 65? 70?
    I live a happy and normal life, in a very pretty place I refer often to as paradise on earth.
    Where else should I go to. Corrupt governments are not a uniquely AFRICAN problem my friend. Look at what's happening in the US, they've got that mad-as-a-hatter TRUMP in charge..
    I am glad the government changed. For a start it meant I didn't have to suffer the wrath of military service. Secondly my child doesn't have to run the risk of cruel and inhuman punishment in school at the hands of narcissistic arseholes called "teachers".

    Go live overseas, see how the others live, some in countries where "GDay Mate" is the standard greeting yet their government spies so much on them they are able to tell you exactly when Peter Jones of Melbourne took a piss, on the 24th of January 2015

    Where corruption was minimal and involved millions NOT BILLIONS
    Erm, there's been stuff we only found out about in the early 2000s, of swindles and outright corruption in the financial sphere, dating back to the early 1960s

    The new dog simply learnt well from the old dog....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWizard View Post
    Of COURSE I long for the "old-days"

    I grew up as a privileged white person in a country where EVERYTHING worked
    and
    Where crime was unheard of and non-existent
    Where one could travel safely and freely -- at 40c a GALLON
    Where corruption was minimal and involved millions NOT BILLIONS
    When South Africa was nearly -- paradise.

    I feel VERY sorry for people that never experienced what it was like to live a happy and normal life
    ( As understood by people used to a FIRST WORLD advanced technical western democratic CIVILISATION )

    Sure this might have been unpleasant for others .......
    However
    "They" have now had more than twenty years of running ruining the country according to "their" particular ideas of how things should be done -- as in the rest of the "Dark-Continent" -- apparently -- turd world shyte-holes
    this ^ is ****ed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    Because the two options are:

    1. Back to apartheid
    2. Grant Eskom 19.9%?

    You really can’t think of anything else?
    3. A more authoritarian government (you forgot that the old days were more authoritarian, not just apartheid)

    What realistic fixes do you have that's doable with the limp wristed "but the votes" government we have? They do not have the will to quell the daily "service delivery" protests or do anything about anything in fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWizard View Post
    Of COURSE I long for the "old-days"

    I grew up as a privileged white person in a country where EVERYTHING worked
    and
    Where crime was unheard of and non-existent
    Where one could travel safely and freely -- at 40c a GALLON
    Where corruption was minimal and involved millions NOT BILLIONS
    When South Africa was nearly -- paradise.

    I feel VERY sorry for people that never experienced what it was like to live a happy and normal life
    ( As understood by people used to a FIRST WORLD advanced technical western democratic CIVILISATION )

    Sure this might have been unpleasant for others .......
    However
    "They" have now had more than twenty years of running ruining the country according to "their" particular ideas of how things should be done -- as in the rest of the "Dark-Continent" -- apparently -- turd world shyte-holes
    1. Everything worked for you. Donít care about the people getting beaten for being out at night too late or dating whom they love?

    2. How old are you? Crime was maybe inexistant in 1915. Since the 1970s itís pretty much comparable.

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    3. Everywhere in the world before 1973, petrol was pretty much free, itís not an accomplishment of the old regime.

    4. Corruption minimal? Please read the TRC records.

    5. Paradise except for those who died, were beaten, had no right to vote and that you were happily exploiting as the great person that you are.

    6. Iím against death penalty, mob justice & co but sometimes I canít help thinking that a bit of revenge on people like you from the previously disadvantaged people couldnít have been necessarily such a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersunbird View Post
    3. A more authoritarian government (you forgot that the old days were more authoritarian, not just apartheid)

    What realistic fixes do you have that's doable with the limp wristed "but the votes" government we have? They do not have the will to quell the daily "service delivery" protests or do anything about anything in fact.
    Restructuring Eskom? Split it in generation and distribution, take over the distribution from municipalities.

    Thatís a realistic solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2wohf View Post
    Restructuring Eskom? Split it in generation and distribution, take over the distribution from municipalities.

    That’s a realistic solution.
    And when the people still don't pay you and you cut them off and they cause chaos and your boss (government) says keep on the lights on, what do you do then?
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    Ahhh gotta love it when MW wades in and spouts forth his nonsense...
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    I must be retarded then

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    Stealing tax payers money. That's all.
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