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    Default Diesel emissions scandal: VW fined €1bn by German prosecutors

    Car giant Volkswagen has been fined €1bn (£880m) by German prosecutors over its diesel emissions scandal.

    The Braunschweig public prosecutor found VW had sold more than 10 million cars between mid-2007 and 2015 that had emissions-test-cheating software installed.

    The car firm said it did not plan to appeal against the fine.

    VW said it had admitted "its responsibility for the diesel crisis".

    The fine is one of the highest ever imposed by German authorities against a company.

    VW chief executive Herbert Diess said by accepting the fine "Volkswagen takes responsibility for the diesel crisis,"

    "Further steps are necessary to restore trust in the company and the auto industry," he added.

    The fine in Germany follows a US plea agreement last year, when VW agreed to pay a criminal fine of $4.3bn to resolve criminal and civil penalties.

    Analysis: By Theo Leggett, business correspondent
    How serious is this for Volkswagen?

    Well, it's a big fine - €1bn is not a small sum. But it pales into insignificance compared with the fines and compensation the group has had to pay out in the US - which add up to well over €20bn

    If this puts an end to criminal proceedings in Europe, VW may well think it's a relatively small price to pay. The company has consistently denied that the software fitted to its cars was actually illegal under European law. Nevertheless, it will welcome the disappearance of that particular legal threat.

    VW does still face a number of civil lawsuits, brought by disgruntled car owners and shareholders. It's not clear yet what impact VW's admission of "responsibility for the diesel crisis" will have on those proceedings.

    But for the moment, it's possible to imagine suits in Wolfsburg breathing a heavy sigh of relief. It could have been worse.

    The total cost of the scandal has been much higher. VW has set aside $30bn to pay for its US bill, which includes fixing cars, buying back cars, clean air fines, penalties and compensation.

    The Volkswagen scandal erupted in September 2015, when the company admitted that nearly 600,000 cars sold in the US were fitted with "defeat devices" designed to circumvent emissions tests.

    Since then it has emerged that VW installed emissions-cheating software in nearly 11 million vehicles worldwide.
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    How did those software developers put in those tweaks without senior management knowledge? Naughty developers

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    Mercedes too recently....
    Waiting for BMW to get hit as well.
    Certainly not good news for the industry in terms of confidence.
    It makes a mockery of either the legislation, the testing regime (now formerly NEDC replaced with WTLP) or the ethics of the manufactures...if not all of them.
    A VERY poor showing all round.
    I love my diesel for torque and economy. I'm not happy about how we've been sold a lie about efficiency, economy and environmental impact..
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    Default Diesel Scandal Deepens as German Authorities Target Audi Chief and Daimler

    More on the scandal, including other players

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/b...er-diesel.html
    Yeah whatever mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by justplain View Post
    Mercedes too recently....
    Waiting for BMW to get hit as well.
    Certainly not good news for the industry in terms of confidence.
    It makes a mockery of either the legislation, the testing regime (now formerly NEDC replaced with WTLP) or the ethics of the manufactures...if not all of them.
    A VERY poor showing all round.
    I love my diesel for torque and economy. I'm not happy about how we've been sold a lie about efficiency, economy and environmental impact..
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    Just get rid of diesel cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan C View Post
    Just get rid of diesel cars
    Not before I own one please!
    Yeah whatever mate

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    Who gets the 1bn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkippyRamirez View Post
    Who gets the 1bn?
    The treehuggers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja'd View Post
    The treehuggers.
    Noooooooo not those damn hippies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by therealace View Post
    How did those software developers put in those tweaks without senior management knowledge? Naughty developers
    How did the developers know about the requirement? Some personal time research? Somewhere, someone, is burning a sticky note with the words:"As a money hungry business, we want to cheat the system, so that we can generate extra $."
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    Yeah, thats pretty much it. Profit over responsibility.
    Cheat the tests to not have to invest in THE BEST and MOST EFFECTIVE and MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY emissions reduction methods possible.
    In my mind it smacks of deliberate action and intention to skirt doing the work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan C View Post
    Just get rid of diesel cars
    Diesel is a lie... I have owned 3 diesel cars, all ended catastrophically. (well almost)
    Volvo S40 DrivE 1.6d (4.5l/100km )- EGR Failed,DPF failed, and finally Turbo failed and engine ran away with itself and over-revved.
    Ford 2.0 TDCI (5.5l/100km) - EGR failed, DPF failed
    Hyundai 1.7 Diesel (5.4l/100) - just didnt like car.. its boring.

    I now have a little 2.0 petrol Mazda CX-3 Sport with none of that EGR/turbo/junk and I get 6.1l/100km.Its a hoot to drive and cheaper to run and maintain. Unless its a company car, I am staying the hell away from the diesel lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan C View Post
    Just get rid of diesel cars
    Europe is trying to do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by therealace View Post
    How did those software developers put in those tweaks without senior management knowledge? Naughty developers
    They were either outright ordered to do it or it was implied that if the software didn't help meet emissions standards people would lose their jobs.

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