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    Quote Originally Posted by Emjay View Post
    Have you been to China? Westerners still get a ton of attention there. Hell, in most places in Asia outside of the very tourist type/high end consumer places, I would get intense stares or a lot of attention because I am tall for a woman (5t11). Also, the Chinese have a culture of spitting. Their toilet culture is also very different; they still use the long drop everywhere. They let their children relieve themselves in public places (in bins). Because there are so many Chinese people, they don't have any sense of personal body space (and are very, very respectful of anyone with authority), so they form packs when queuing, and they kind of shuffle and flow. Even when travelling through Dubai, I had some Chinese nationals stand on top of me when there was ample space. It's a very different culture.

    They are far from obtuse though. Once you get passed the language barrier, they are very technical and smart.
    Wow some small-minded concepts in there. Really, because there are so many Chinese people? And yet that would describe the poorest people of almost any race. The only difference being the specific century referenced.

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    Ho hum. So he was good at sums, but sucked at people, philosophy and politics. At least he wasn't creepy like Newton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Ho hum. So he was good at sums, but sucked at people, philosophy and politics. At least he wasn't creepy like Newton.
    Actually he was crap at sums. For special relativity he got his wife at the time to do the maths and for general relativity he roped in a mate of his: Marcel Grossman. Einstein was, quite literally, a big ideas person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milano View Post
    Wow some small-minded concepts in there. Really, because there are so many Chinese people? And yet that would describe the poorest people of almost any race. The only difference being the specific century referenced.
    Much of china till today is still filthy, and then there's the absolute lack of human compassion where a car will run over a child and nobody will flinch or assist and just walk pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milano View Post
    Wow some small-minded concepts in there. Really, because there are so many Chinese people? And yet that would describe the poorest people of almost any race. The only difference being the specific century referenced.
    I think that you misjudged Emjay.

    She mentioned, without any criticism, her travels in out of the way places where culture was very different to ours and her final comment, Once you get passed (sic) the language barrier, they are very technical and smart, is a compliment.

    Looking at SA culture, others might think that ukuthwala, lobola and muti from human body parts are all pretty revolting.

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    The little racist. Then again, if you are not stupid your pattern recognition faculties tend to be good.

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    It's not only Chinese men.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nightjar View Post

    Looking at SA culture, others might think that ukuthwala, lobola and muti from human body parts are all pretty revolting.
    Racist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja'd View Post
    Well who? Galileo?
    God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooFastTim View Post
    Actually he was crap at sums. For special relativity he got his wife at the time to do the maths and for general relativity he roped in a mate of his: Marcel Grossman. Einstein was, quite literally, a big ideas person.
    Einstein being bad at maths is some of the most over hyped BS for idiots to feel better about themselves. Much like the false quotes attributed to him. Do you know how good you have to be at maths to be even a mediocre physicist? Even physicists that are "bad" at maths are still by far and way above the average Joe. In the same Asuka Cambridge is "slow" because he can't beat Usain Bolt.

    Somebody that sucks at "sums" coming up with theoretical frameworks for relativity, contributing to quantum mechanics, statistical mechanics, and cosmology. Oh yeah and winning a fekking Nobel prize.

    "crap at sums". Tsek.
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    Hehe. I thought it obvious that "sums" as I used it above is a synecdoche for Mathematics and Theoretical Physics - in contradistinction to touchy-feely peopley stuff like relationships, cultural sensitivity, sociological and anthropological nous, and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knyro View Post
    Einstein being bad at maths is some of the most over hyped BS for idiots to feel better about themselves. Much like the false quotes attributed to him. Do you know how good you have to be at maths to be even a mediocre physicist? Even physicists that are "bad" at maths are still by far and way above the average Joe. In the same Asuka Cambridge is "slow" because he can't beat Usain bolt.

    Somebody that sucks at "sums" coming up with theoretical frameworks for relativity, contributing to quantum mechanics, statistical mechanics, and cosmology. Oh yeah and winning a fekking Nobel prize.

    "crap at sums". Tsek.
    He was. Relatively speaking. He was no mathematician. Few physicists are (okay, maybe Dirac).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightjar View Post

    Looking at SA culture, others might think that ukuthwala, lobola and muti from human body parts are all pretty revolting.
    I do for sure, but would not push that down the throats of other races that practise them. By the same token those persons can keep their opinions of my cultural practices to themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooFastTim View Post
    He was. Relatively speaking.
    General or Special?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooFastTim View Post
    He was. Relatively speaking. He was no mathematician. Few physicists are (okay, maybe Dirac).
    Yep, when proven wrong move the goalposts. Of course mathemations are going to be better at maths, it's what they do. Just like physicists are better at physics, because it's what they do.

    Fact is Einstein was great at maths. All physicists are. Even the ones you've never heard of.
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