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Thread: Forget rocket engines – Google invests in a space catapult

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    Quote Originally Posted by eg2505 View Post
    SpaceX is on the right path doing things like getting money from electric cars and batteries ect...
    Er, Musk hasn't made a single dollar from cars. Without taxpayer subsidies of up to R35 000 per car Tesla would be bankrupt. Tesla Energy, though having a small "positive gross margin" as Musk phrases it, is a minuscule business. Sure, it has a huge potential, but that's in the future, and he hasn't yet found a way to move future revenues to current P&L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eg2505 View Post
    ok,
    you would agree the Technology to release payloads and control and calculate orbital velocities is MUCH better than the 70's?

    and yes, you right, it needs to be viable, supercomputers and research has gone a lot further than what it was in the 1970's
    I sure it will happen in this decade, definitely this century.
    Those things contribute very little to the costs, my cheap chinese cellphone can perform that task. Compared to the electronics the rest of the stuff is still pretty primitive and where most of the cost is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Er, Musk hasn't made a single dollar from cars. Without taxpayer subsidies of up to R35 000 per car Tesla would be bankrupt. Tesla Energy, though having a small "positive gross margin" as Musk phrases it, is a minuscule business. Sure, it has a huge potential, but that's in the future, and he hasn't yet found a way to move future revenues to current P&L.
    Sorry what? Do you mean the $465 million loan that got paid back in 3 years instead of 10 by the Department of Energy?

    Here is a nice list of failures: http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/22/news...ex.html?iid=EL
    A123: The battery maker received a $249 million > The company drew down $132 million of that grant, and the factories are up and running "Since the investment was a grant, the government got no money back. " - after the bankruptcy

    Abound Solar: The manufacturer of thin-film solar panels received a $400 million DOE. Abound drew down $70 million of the grant to build the Denver factory. Its assets are being auctioned off, and DOE is expected to lose to $40 to $60 million on the deal.

    Beacon Power: The company received a $43 million DOE > The company spent $39 million to build the project > The flywheel plant was sold to a competitor, and DOE is slated to receive at least $27 million in the deal.

    Ener1: A subsidiary of the company, EnerDel, received an $118.5 million grant > Ener1 declared bankruptcy in January, and the company was bought by a Russian investor.

    Solyndra: The manufacturer of advanced solar panels received a $535 million loan > Its assets are being auctioned off, and DOE is not expected to recover any meaningful amount of money.

    Fisker Automotive: The electric car maker received a $529 million DOE-backed stimulus loan > The company has drawn down about $200 million of the loan. > In February, Fisker put the manufacture of the sedan on hold amid lower than expected demand for electric cars and announced layoffs

    Nevada Geothermal Power: The firm received a $98 million DOE-backed loan to build a geothermal power plant north of Reno. > According to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, an internal audit of the firm revealed $98 million in net losses and significant debt. > DOE says the power plant the loan built has a long-term agreement to sell electricity, and its investment will be protected no matter what happens to the parent company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eg2505 View Post
    so build it backwards?

    interesting idea, will look weird when this string from the heavens gets close to the ground.

    again, maneuvering an asteroid big enough, and safely enough closer to earth,
    but I sure it could be done , once the numbers are crunched.

    sure solar sails might come in handy, to move the giant rock closer to earth.
    I swear, you really, really, really remind me of a pre-banned Thor...
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