Okay, now THAT actually answers the question I was asking.
Randomly selecting ordinary citizens to serve for limited periods instead of creating a permanent political class is at least a practical alternative system I can get my head around.
Whether I'd trust it to run a modern country is...
And there we have it. 😂
Asked for evidence... F*KK*L... couldn't provide any... F*KK*L... “pedo lover” rinse and repeat.
That's not an argument, Bob. That's a tantrum with a keyboard.
But yes, ignoring me is probably your best option. Then you won't have to answer the question.
Fair enough, then I misunderstood what you meant by “moral superiority”. I'll give you that one. 👍
Doesn't change the actual point we're debating though. 😂
And now Mandela has entered the chat. 😂
What Mandela may or may not have intended has F*KK*L to do with the question I asked you.
You said Article 1 gives an individual the unilateral legal right to leave the political union.
Show me where it says that... I'll wait...
Not your interpretation...
I didn't say you advocated “no rules”. I said freedom comes with rules and consequences. There's a difference.
You've spent half this discussion telling me people should be free to leave political unions and choose which rules they associate under. I'm asking where the limits are and who...
NEWSFLASH... saying “it means exactly that” doesn't make it so. 😂
Article 1 says peoples have a right to self-determination. Show me where it says an individual can unilaterally withdraw from the state, its laws and its tax obligations.
That's the claim you're making, so show me the actual...
Ah, the evidence exists, we just can't see it. 😂 That's wonderfully convenient.
You can prove absolutely anything with evidence nobody is allowed to see.
😂 Bob, we're now at altar boys and Andrew Tate and you still haven't produced a shred of evidence for either claim I actually asked you about.
But please, keep going. This is doing far more for my argument than anything I could write.
Ah, so now I'm the problem and apparently sitting on some moral high ground. 😂
I understood your unsubscribe point perfectly well. I just don't agree with it.
And you mention individual responsibility... that's exactly the point. Freedom comes with responsibility, rules and consequences. You...
Mate, that's not an unsubscribe button. 😂
“All peoples have the right to self-determination” does not mean every individual has the right to unsubscribe from their country, its laws, or its government whenever they feel like it.
You've gone from freedom of association to secession, and now to...
That's lovely in theory. History is also full of people experimenting with grand ideas while everyone else got stuck paying for it.
You keep describing the freedom to opt out as if governments come with an unsubscribe button. They don't. 😂
Mate, countries aren't VMs. 😂 You can't spin up 20 different governance models, see which one crashes and restore the population from a snapshot. Real people have to live through the failed experiments.
Ah, there it is. Mock Kirk’s death, call Trump a pedo and claim he staged his own assassination attempt. 😂
Big claims, Bob. Evidence for the last two, please. Not memes, not “everyone knows” ... actual evidence.