Patients complain that service at Diepkloof clinic ‘was better under apartheid’

dlk001 said:
East London & Ciskei Border had better healthcare facilities in the 80's and 90's in my experience.

- Although Frere Hospital. East London was segregated into Black and White areas, the service in the Black areas was generally as good. My mom worked there for nearly 40 years. The big issue was the long queues. Interestingly, Black people had access to the White areas (accompanied by a Nurse) when a Doctor referred a Black patient to specialist clinics like Dermatology, Eye and Operations.

- Although nearby hospitals like Cecilia Makiwane Hospital (Mdantsane) and Day Hospital (Duncan Village) were substandard (due to Apartheid) compared to Frere Hospital in my experience, they were better than the Frere Hospital I have seen recently.

- Lastly, in my township, we had available Clinics for primary healthcare. Patients were often referred to Hostpitals by the clinics.
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My father was in charge of maintenance of Frere in the 80s and 90s. They had some incredibly talented, proud and caring people working there.
 
VF+ Groenewald really sounds like Cosmik, what are the chances they are the same people
 
Cosmik Debris said:
Which human rights abuses were perpetrated in hospitals? And back up your assumptions. It's obvious you were never around during apartheid.

Tell me how many are treated like scum in this video too:

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Nice video.

You were obviously aware of the leftist propaganda videos, the ones sponsored by Swedish and Finnish journalists, where they placed jelly tots in dustbins in full view of black children, and then left the area, but had a camera rolling, filming the children scratching in the dustbins looking for the jellytots. They sold the film to the world as "Starving black children scratch around in dustbins for food." :laugh:
 
PrimeSteak said:
****in hell...

Horrible conditions. Truly horrible. It's when I see **** like this that I truly hope that change will come next year. Because this ANC government is just ****ed up, to put it simply.
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NHI will fix this.
 
PrimeSteak said:
The problem is the ANC won't "win" next year. They'll definitely lose their majority.

The question we should ask is, how far will they fall below 50% and will they be able to form a coalition government in some way shape or form?
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Of course they will, all that it will take is for Cosatu to form and register a political party, problem solved.
 
Two questions arise. Were some things better under apartheid than now? Are you allowed to say so? The first question is simple. Of course, certain things were better under apartheid. Electricity supply was better. Transnet was better. Passenger rail transport for black workers was better. Black unemployment was lower. Maybe poor black people in the townships and squatter camps were less terrorised by violent crime. The second question, are you allowed to say so?, is more troublesome. It seems you are not allowed to say so. The reasons why you may not are disturbing, showing not only a willingness to curb free speech but a racist disdain for the plight of poor black people under the ANC. We are getting close to the point when, if you say poor blacks are suffering terribly under the ANC, you will be called a racist who wants to bring back apartheid.
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What do the white racists think? - Daily Friend

Who spoke these words (very loudly) and on what occasion? “South Africa, as a country, was more functional during apartheid than it currently is …
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RonSwanson said:
Nice video.

You were obviously aware of the leftist propaganda videos, the ones sponsored by Swedish and Finnish journalists, where they placed jelly tots in dustbins in full view of black children, and then left the area, but had a camera rolling, filming the children scratching in the dustbins looking for the jellytots. They sold the film to the world as "Starving black children scratch around in dustbins for food." :laugh:
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Oh yes. I specifically remember the black kids with arms sticking through a fence and someone with food on camera. The others off camera had sweets. The caption was that the kids were starving.
 
@nightjar :

The second question, are you allowed to say so?, is more troublesome. It seems you are not allowed to say so. The reasons why you may not are disturbing, showing not only a willingness to curb free speech but a racist disdain for the plight of poor black people under the ANC. We are getting close to the point when, if you say poor blacks are suffering terribly under the ANC, you will be called a racist who wants to bring back apartheid.

I have often been accused of wanting to bring apartheid back and of being an apartheid apologist when pointing this out.

It seems that cancel culture is alive among many on MyBB.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
Oh yes. I specifically remember the black kids with arms sticking through a fence and someone with food on camera. The others off camera had sweets. The caption was that the kids were starving.
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That may have been another take, but with a similar purpose, to exploit black children in order to deceive the world's viewers, forming a common narrative of The Great Evils of Apartheid, so much so that even today it is used as a brand.
 
nightjar said:
dailyfriend.co.za

What do the white racists think? - Daily Friend

Who spoke these words (very loudly) and on what occasion? “South Africa, as a country, was more functional during apartheid than it currently is …
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He started out OK, but then delved into his twisted take on geneology, which is clearly not his strong point. I may have hair, but I am not an ape, nor a descendent of one.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
@nightjar :

The second question, are you allowed to say so?, is more troublesome. It seems you are not allowed to say so. The reasons why you may not are disturbing, showing not only a willingness to curb free speech but a racist disdain for the plight of poor black people under the ANC. We are getting close to the point when, if you say poor blacks are suffering terribly under the ANC, you will be called a racist who wants to bring back apartheid.

I have often been accused of wanting to bring apartheid back and of being an apartheid apologist when pointing this out.

It seems that cancel culture is alive among many on MyBB.
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RonSwanson said:
He started out OK, but then delved into his twisted take on geneology, which is clearly not his strong point. I may have hair, but I am not an ape, nor a descendent of one.
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Uh-oh. This might cause a major rift between you and your forum boyfriend.
 
FiestaST said:
I applaud you & okes that actually give detailed facts (breakdown) as opposed to baseless opinions.

Like I said earlier in this thread if there are still people out with a semblance of a brain(cell) that still vote ANC and/or justify them then feck me a bullet to the head is needed (harsh af but I don't give a crap).

Okes are next level gatvol so fuk 'em.
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I get your sentiment, however, as cosmik is one of the known **** talkers on this forum - having him talk about "some hospital" and this town and that town and throwing out distances. Without naming the actual hospital. To me, that sounds like BS. Why not just name the town so others can confirm? Why keep it so vague? What is his involvement to be able to have such "accurate" take on the events - like knowing where the ambulance is parked?

He has previously pulled "facts" out of his arse that suits his narrative. And he very rarely states his sources so others can check and confirm. Just cause it matches the narrative in this case, shouldn't let his anecdotes pass as facts.

*disclaimer - this my opinion. There is examples available on this forum of him doing what I described, but his post history is so large that doing searches, isn't too viable. Instead of wasting time doing this, I'll just retract it and say that my post saying he is a **** talker should carry as much weight as his post.
 
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GhostSixFour said:
Why not just name the town so others can confirm? Why keep it so vague?
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Because it's a small town and the information can lead to my identification. And I'm a member of the farmer's co-op.

GhostSixFour said:
What is his involvement to be able to have such "accurate" take on the events - like knowing where the ambulance is parked?
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It's a small town. Everybody knows where the ambulance is parked.
 
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GhostSixFour said:
He has previously pulled "facts" out of his arse that suits his narrative.
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Post those?

GhostSixFour said:
And he very rarely states his sources so others can check and confirm. Just cause it matches the narrative in this case, shouldn't let his anecdotes pass as facts.
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Oh? I'm sure most here will disagree with you. Read this thread and tell me about not posting facts and reference. Do you have any facts and references for your personal attack on me or only allegations?

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