Steve Hofmeyr booted from boat cruise concert: 'I will never climb on one of their ships again'

It's so edgy to be anti-Afrikaans right now, but when's the last time an Afrikaans musician was shot down in the streets?

Too soon..?
 
I listened to Steve. His view is that MSC disagrees with his public opinion. Having a look at MSC's statement,

Thango Gombiza, MSC Cruises spokesperson, confirmed to News24 that Hofmeyr has been removed by the theme cruise organiser from the artist line-up.

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Gombiza says Lefra Productions is the organiser for the MSC Sinfonia cruise and made the decision to remove Steve Hofmeyr and to replace him.
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so MSC has taken the position that Steve hasn't been removed by MSC, but by their organiser, and as stated by MSC,

“It is important to note that Hofmeyr is still being paid his full performance fee by the theme cruise organiser and prior to his removal by the theme cruise organiser, the theme cruise organiser provided him with the option to hold a performance in Walvis Bay, Namibia, where his fans, and possibly an even larger audience, would have had the opportunity to enjoy his performance. It is our understanding that Hofmeyr declined this option.”

She notes that “MSC Cruises is a family company driven by its brand values and principles and is always guided by this. The company endeavours to provide experiences that are meant to enrich, delight and create unforgettable memories for all guests. The theme cruise organiser has communicated the necessary information relating to this theme cruise with all its affected guests.”
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Now you need to ask who employed Steve, MSC or the organiser? From how I understand it, Steve has a relationship with the organiser and not directly with MSC. This being contractual, there might be a devil in the details.

What is unknown is how this cancellation was issued to Steve, which clause was invoked and what options may be made available to Steve? We as the public don't know.

The option quoted above could be a remedy to the contract, and Steve didn't accept the compromise which is a right pending on the condition that he as a party is damaged by the cancellation. This is where MSC took the exception that Steve has been provided with an option to possibly entertain a larger audience in Namibia at Walvis Bay which in my view is not an argument to be made by them in public.

Then, who gave the instruction to cancel Steve, MSC or the organiser? MSC did state that they are guided by brand values and principles, so I assume they gave the instruction otherwise why mention it at all.

My view on this is that MSC should have sooner engaged with the organiser to remove Steve as an entertainer, or best not involve him at all, but is Steve right to complain, yes, in my view, this event is scheduled to take place between 20 and 25 February 2023 and has been advertised since November 2022, or at least to my knowledge, but Steve is climbing up the wrong tree, he is complaining about the wrong party.

To have a look at the event, https://www.msccruises.co.za/cruise-deals/theme-cruises/kappityt-fees

KAPPITYT FEES​


Die Kappityt Fees | Kappstad - Nambibie

DIE KAPPITYT FEES | KAAPSTAD - NAMIBIË

MSC SINFONIA | 20 – 25 FEBRUARIE 2023 met Bobby van Jaarsveld, Karlien van Jaarsveld, Jan Jan Jan, WEST, Ouderdoos, Van Kose, Ernie Bates, Mac Young, Groet die Grotman 2
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As noted in the line-up above, but the original promotion advertised,

- Hennie du Bruyn en die Kitaarkêrels,
- “Afrikaners is Plesierig” boeremusiek-deck party
- Wen Noot OppiBoot
- Riaan van Rensburg’s drumming circle
- Groet die Grotman 2
- Alwyn Oberholster
- Steve Hofmeyr
- Demi-Lee Moore
- Jan Jan Jan
- West
- Ouderdoos
- Van Kose
- Ernie Bates
- Mac Young

so a big change to the line-up, unless they only list the main line-up on the MSC website. I assume that Bobby and Karlien replaced Steve and Demi-Lee. Why, I don't know, but Steve and Demi-Lee usually do a duo, but I don't know Demi-Lee's political views. These entertainers, or rather artists as they would say, aren't exactly my taste, so I don't keep up with them.

MSC does have an event disclaimer,

Disclaimer: advertised activities and artists are organised by the organisers and is additional to the normal entertainment and activities as planned by MSC Sinfonia and MSC Cruises. Additional activities and artists as planned by the organisers can change at any time without prior notice to passengers.
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again, placing the onus on the organisers, contractually. I am certain that Steve doesn't have a case against MSC, but rather against the organiser with whom he possibly has a long-standing relationship with, hence him aiming at MSC and milking it. This being all contractual there will be details we are not privy to.

Even though MSC may have instructed the organiser to change the entertainers, it is not a matter between him and MSC in my view. A possible dispute between MSC and the organiser may arise, but Steve needs to take this up with the organiser.

Anyhow. Nobody likes a contractual breach, remedying is a burden, because naturally it impedes all other commitments. In the end, saying this all, in the case Steve got paid as per the contractual obligation then he has already been "voor-op-die-wa". Don't argue when you already have been paid, but as said, there could be more details unknown to the public. There is the odd chance that MSC may have a case against Steve since he asked his audience not to book with MSC. As always, when you sign a contract, understand it; IF NOT, don't sign it.
 
grok said:
It's so edgy to be anti-Afrikaans right now, but when's the last time an Afrikaans musician was shot down in the streets?

Too soon..?
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Never too soon for dark jokes, but I don't think it's necessary.

Aka had a few good songs. He will now never be as great as Steve, but there is room that both can could coexist.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I listened to Steve. His view is that MSC disagrees with his public opinion. Having a look at MSC's statement,



so MSC has taken the position that Steve hasn't been removed by MSC, but by their organiser, and as stated by MSC,



Now you need to ask who employed Steve, MSC or the organiser? From how I understand it, Steve has a relationship with the organiser and not directly with MSC. This being contractual, there might be a devil in the details.

What is unknown is how this cancellation was issued to Steve, which clause was invoked and what options may be made available to Steve? We as the public don't know.

The option quoted above could be a remedy to the contract, and Steve didn't accept the compromise which is a right pending on the condition that he as a party is damaged by the cancellation. This is where MSC took the exception that Steve has been provided with an option to possibly entertain a larger audience in Namibia at Walvis Bay which in my view is not an argument to be made by them in public.

Then, who gave the instruction to cancel Steve, MSC or the organiser? MSC did state that they are guided by brand values and principles, so I assume they gave the instruction otherwise why mention it at all.

My view on this is that MSC should have sooner engaged with the organiser to remove Steve as an entertainer, or best not involve him at all, but is Steve right to complain, yes, in my view, this event is scheduled to take place between 20 and 25 February 2023 and has been advertised since November 2022, or at least to my knowledge, but Steve is climbing up the wrong tree, he is complaining about the wrong party.

To have a look at the event, https://www.msccruises.co.za/cruise-deals/theme-cruises/kappityt-fees



As noted in the line-up above, but the original promotion advertised,

- Hennie du Bruyn en die Kitaarkêrels,
- “Afrikaners is Plesierig” boeremusiek-deck party
- Wen Noot OppiBoot
- Riaan van Rensburg’s drumming circle
- Groet die Grotman 2
- Alwyn Oberholster
- Steve Hofmeyr
- Demi-Lee Moore
- Jan Jan Jan
- West
- Ouderdoos
- Van Kose
- Ernie Bates
- Mac Young

so a big change to the line-up, unless they only list the main line-up on the MSC website. I assume that Bobby and Karlien replaced Steve and Demi-Lee. Why, I don't know, but Steve and Demi-Lee usually do a duo, but I don't know Demi-Lee's political views. These entertainers, or rather artists as they would say, aren't exactly my taste, so I don't keep up with them.

MSC does have an event disclaimer,



again, placing the onus on the organisers, contractually. I am certain that Steve doesn't have a case against MSC, but rather against the organiser with whom he possibly has a long-standing relationship with, hence him aiming at MSC and milking it. This being all contractual there will be details we are not party to.

Even though MSC may have instructed the organiser to change the entertainers, it is not a matter between him and MSC in my view. A possible dispute between MSC and the organiser may arise, but Steve needs to take this up with the organiser.

Anyhow. Nobody likes a contractual breach, remedying is a burden, because naturally it impedes all other commitments. In the end, saying this all, in the case Steve got paid as per the contractual obligation then he has already been "voor-op-die-wa". Don't argue when you already have been paid, but as said, there could be more details unknown to the public. There is the odd chance that MSC may have a case against Steve since he asked his audience not to book with MSC. As always, when you sign a contract, understand it; IF NOT, don't sign it.
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Congrats, you spent more time on this chop than anyone else would have had the patience for...
 
grok said:
It's so edgy to be anti-Afrikaans right now, but when's the last time an Afrikaans musician was shot down in the streets?

Too soon..?
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Thinking that Steve is a tw@t is not being anti-Afrikaans though, is it?
 
Pineapple Smurf said:
Must be boring in his home, nothing but SABC to watch
Steve Hofmeyr & supporters destroy their DStv products
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IPTV.. DSTV dinosaur.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I listened to Steve. His view is that MSC disagrees with his public opinion. Having a look at MSC's statement,



so MSC has taken the position that Steve hasn't been removed by MSC, but by their organiser, and as stated by MSC,



Now you need to ask who employed Steve, MSC or the organiser? From how I understand it, Steve has a relationship with the organiser and not directly with MSC. This being contractual, there might be a devil in the details.

What is unknown is how this cancellation was issued to Steve, which clause was invoked and what options may be made available to Steve? We as the public don't know.

The option quoted above could be a remedy to the contract, and Steve didn't accept the compromise which is a right pending on the condition that he as a party is damaged by the cancellation. This is where MSC took the exception that Steve has been provided with an option to possibly entertain a larger audience in Namibia at Walvis Bay which in my view is not an argument to be made by them in public.

Then, who gave the instruction to cancel Steve, MSC or the organiser? MSC did state that they are guided by brand values and principles, so I assume they gave the instruction otherwise why mention it at all.

My view on this is that MSC should have sooner engaged with the organiser to remove Steve as an entertainer, or best not involve him at all, but is Steve right to complain, yes, in my view, this event is scheduled to take place between 20 and 25 February 2023 and has been advertised since November 2022, or at least to my knowledge, but Steve is climbing up the wrong tree, he is complaining about the wrong party.

To have a look at the event, https://www.msccruises.co.za/cruise-deals/theme-cruises/kappityt-fees



As noted in the line-up above, but the original promotion advertised,

- Hennie du Bruyn en die Kitaarkêrels,
- “Afrikaners is Plesierig” boeremusiek-deck party
- Wen Noot OppiBoot
- Riaan van Rensburg’s drumming circle
- Groet die Grotman 2
- Alwyn Oberholster
- Steve Hofmeyr
- Demi-Lee Moore
- Jan Jan Jan
- West
- Ouderdoos
- Van Kose
- Ernie Bates
- Mac Young

so a big change to the line-up, unless they only list the main line-up on the MSC website. I assume that Bobby and Karlien replaced Steve and Demi-Lee. Why, I don't know, but Steve and Demi-Lee usually do a duo, but I don't know Demi-Lee's political views. These entertainers, or rather artists as they would say, aren't exactly my taste, so I don't keep up with them.

MSC does have an event disclaimer,



again, placing the onus on the organisers, contractually. I am certain that Steve doesn't have a case against MSC, but rather against the organiser with whom he possibly has a long-standing relationship with, hence him aiming at MSC and milking it. This being all contractual there will be details we are not privy to.

Even though MSC may have instructed the organiser to change the entertainers, it is not a matter between him and MSC in my view. A possible dispute between MSC and the organiser may arise, but Steve needs to take this up with the organiser.

Anyhow. Nobody likes a contractual breach, remedying is a burden, because naturally it impedes all other commitments. In the end, saying this all, in the case Steve got paid as per the contractual obligation then he has already been "voor-op-die-wa". Don't argue when you already have been paid, but as said, there could be more details unknown to the public. There is the odd chance that MSC may have a case against Steve since he asked his audience not to book with MSC. As always, when you sign a contract, understand it; IF NOT, don't sign it.
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If they are still paying him not to perform then that's the end of it.
The other aspect is if they are going to refund guest
 
EADC said:
What?

Being anti Steve does not make you anti Afrikaans, it's just a coincidence all the ***** on the forum are Afrikaans.
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You can dislike Steve all you like and nobody would care.
 
rietrot said:
If they are still paying him not to perform then that's the end of it.
The other aspect is if they are going to refund guest
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Paying him not to perform sounds much kinder to those poor souls onboard than paying him to perform would be, actually.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I listened to Steve. His view is that MSC disagrees with his public opinion. Having a look at MSC's statement,



so MSC has taken the position that Steve hasn't been removed by MSC, but by their organiser, and as stated by MSC,



Now you need to ask who employed Steve, MSC or the organiser? From how I understand it, Steve has a relationship with the organiser and not directly with MSC. This being contractual, there might be a devil in the details.

What is unknown is how this cancellation was issued to Steve, which clause was invoked and what options may be made available to Steve? We as the public don't know.

The option quoted above could be a remedy to the contract, and Steve didn't accept the compromise which is a right pending on the condition that he as a party is damaged by the cancellation. This is where MSC took the exception that Steve has been provided with an option to possibly entertain a larger audience in Namibia at Walvis Bay which in my view is not an argument to be made by them in public.

Then, who gave the instruction to cancel Steve, MSC or the organiser? MSC did state that they are guided by brand values and principles, so I assume they gave the instruction otherwise why mention it at all.

My view on this is that MSC should have sooner engaged with the organiser to remove Steve as an entertainer, or best not involve him at all, but is Steve right to complain, yes, in my view, this event is scheduled to take place between 20 and 25 February 2023 and has been advertised since November 2022, or at least to my knowledge, but Steve is climbing up the wrong tree, he is complaining about the wrong party.

To have a look at the event, https://www.msccruises.co.za/cruise-deals/theme-cruises/kappityt-fees



As noted in the line-up above, but the original promotion advertised,

- Hennie du Bruyn en die Kitaarkêrels,
- “Afrikaners is Plesierig” boeremusiek-deck party
- Wen Noot OppiBoot
- Riaan van Rensburg’s drumming circle
- Groet die Grotman 2
- Alwyn Oberholster
- Steve Hofmeyr
- Demi-Lee Moore
- Jan Jan Jan
- West
- Ouderdoos
- Van Kose
- Ernie Bates
- Mac Young

so a big change to the line-up, unless they only list the main line-up on the MSC website. I assume that Bobby and Karlien replaced Steve and Demi-Lee. Why, I don't know, but Steve and Demi-Lee usually do a duo, but I don't know Demi-Lee's political views. These entertainers, or rather artists as they would say, aren't exactly my taste, so I don't keep up with them.

MSC does have an event disclaimer,



again, placing the onus on the organisers, contractually. I am certain that Steve doesn't have a case against MSC, but rather against the organiser with whom he possibly has a long-standing relationship with, hence him aiming at MSC and milking it. This being all contractual there will be details we are not privy to.

Even though MSC may have instructed the organiser to change the entertainers, it is not a matter between him and MSC in my view. A possible dispute between MSC and the organiser may arise, but Steve needs to take this up with the organiser.

Anyhow. Nobody likes a contractual breach, remedying is a burden, because naturally it impedes all other commitments. In the end, saying this all, in the case Steve got paid as per the contractual obligation then he has already been "voor-op-die-wa". Don't argue when you already have been paid, but as said, there could be more details unknown to the public. There is the odd chance that MSC may have a case against Steve since he asked his audience not to book with MSC. As always, when you sign a contract, understand it; IF NOT, don't sign it.
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MSC seems very neutral and careful to not disclose the reason for his removal.

I think THEY decided it. Why would the event organizer book him and then suddenly change THEIR minds?

Someone at MSC suddenly realized Steve is on the playlist and went Karen.

All good and well that he was paid in full and offered other options ( slap in the face IMHO and they knew he would never accept it).

MSC is the venue here and they do not want him at THEIR venue, for whatever undisclosed reasons.

PS> Very cool post by the way with facts etc. Refreshing when looking at the rest of this thread's triggered and frothing Afrikaner bashing. It's quite amusing to see the hyenas pounce as soon as the opportunity arises.

PSS> MSC can also shove their
“MSC Cruises is a family company driven by its brand values and principles and is always guided by this. The company endeavors to provide experiences that are meant to enrich, delight and create unforgettable memories for all guests.
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The regular murders, rapes, disappearances etc. on cruise ships says otherwise. Floating cesspools....
 
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