Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7

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Cray said:
Ok, What does "meddling in other countries' affairs mean? Show me one country in the world that doesn't influence and interact with other countries.
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And as terrible as any meddling done by any country is... Russia is still the worst and meddles in the most destructive ways.

At very best case they are second worst after the USA. But at least the USA has contributed some benefit to this world over the last 200 years... Russia.... literally nothing.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Oh we don't really care either, but its funny as fsck watching you froth at the mouth whilst spouting stupid bollocks.

Bwahahahaha NATO will start its slow decline into obscurity again, by adding more members and getting more spend from member countries... you have a very fscking twisted idea of what "decline" means.
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Yeah, sure. NATO was on the way out long before this conflict. The different countries in NATO are not all sitting around the same campfire and some of them are really not happy. Many of these are getting tired of being told to spend money they don't really have and are starting to ask the questions why. Even their own people are asking why must they pay the bill for something that doesn't involve them. And don't go off on the whole Ukrainian hero drivel and how they are defending Europe from evil Putin. If you believe that then you believe in the tooth fairy too.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I reckon NATO should expand bevok...

Mongola, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, etc
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100% that is why I said "a good start" ;)

But Putin and western Russia are also fundamentally white supremist and racists by nature so they much less interested in their Asian neighbors. Just look at how they treat their own eastern and Asian territories and peoples... so less urgency.
 
viper13 said:
Oh here we go again. Unless it is written in a specific manner using certain precise words and signed by specific people on a pre-determined date at a coordinated location before a full moon and drenched in the blood of a newly slaughtered unicorn then it isn't real.

There were assurances that NATO would not expand eastwards, everybody knows it. There is documented proof but still you numpties want to continue to behave like ostriches. Well go ahead, the embarrassment in this whole conflict is that "pathetic, poorly motivated and under-equipped" Russia is kicking Ukraine's rear even with the aid of a foreign legion and billions in the latest western weapons. The conflict only ends in one way; and that is how Russia decides it.

The all powerful NATO has become a joke that will not enter the conflict because they know that it would mean; the end of NATO. It would also drag China, North Korea and Iran directly into the fight and there is no way the west can stand up to that and they know it. So rather appear tough than have to prove it.
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Everyone knows it?

Except for Gorbachev, you know the Soviet PM who was at the negotiation.

Strange how he missed that agreement, but somehow you know about it?
 
viper13 said:
What ahs this got to do with NATO expansion? This is limited to Germany. The expansion is extra-Germany. Trying to follow the troll guidebook are we? Go learn some new tricks.
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Are you struggling to understand the nature of the document you posted?

If you lack comprehension, ask for help. I don't get paid to help you.
 
buka001 said:
Everyone knows it?

Except for Gorbachev, you know the Soviet PM who was at the negotiation.

Strange how he missed that agreement, but somehow you know about it?
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To be fair, there was an agreement that NATO wouldn't expand west, into the territory of the ex-GDR, and NATO have honored that 100%
 
AlmightyBender said:
100% that is why I said "a good start" ;)

But Putin and western Russia are also fundamentally white supremist and racists by nature so they much less interested in their Asian neighbors. Just look at how they treat their own eastern and Asian territories and peoples... so less urgency.
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Racism always makes people stupid.

Comments like yours are perfect examples of it.
If places like western Russia, a region you claim are white supremacists and racist by their very nature, then why did that part of the world support the ANC in their fight to take down the NP? Has their nature changed?
 
konfab said:
Racism always makes people stupid.

Comments like yours are perfect examples of it.
If places like western Russia, a region you claim are white supremacists and racist by their very nature, then why did that part of the world support the ANC in their fight to take down the NP? Has their nature changed?
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To get their hands on South Africa's resources perhaps?
 

Norway to donate $7.4bn in aid to Ukraine​

Norway’s parliament has signed off on aid totalling 75 billion kroner ($7.4bn) to Kyiv as part of a five-year support package, making the Nordic nation one of the world’s biggest donors to war-torn Ukraine.
The money will be split evenly between military and humanitarian assistance over five years, broken down to 15 billion kroner ($1.5bn) annually.
 

Switzerland moves to seize $140m linked to former Ukrainian leader​

Switzerland has launched proceedings to confiscate more than 130 million Swiss francs ($140m) linked to the entourage of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich.
The Swiss government said it had initiated proceedings with the Federal Administrative Court to seize money presumed to be of “illicit origin”.
The people involved were linked to Yanukovich, who fled to Russia after being deposed in 2014 by mass protests. Yanukovich’s Swiss-based assets were frozen the same year.
 

US to provide Czech Republic with $200m of military aid​

The United States will provide $200m to the Czech Republic for military upgrades and replacement of equipment the country is sending to Ukraine, the US Embassy in Prague has said.
The donation is in addition to $106m pledged by Washington last year, Czech news agency CTK reported.
 
MiW said:

Norway to donate $7.4bn in aid to Ukraine​

Norway’s parliament has signed off on aid totalling 75 billion kroner ($7.4bn) to Kyiv as part of a five-year support package, making the Nordic nation one of the world’s biggest donors to war-torn Ukraine.
The money will be split evenly between military and humanitarian assistance over five years, broken down to 15 billion kroner ($1.5bn) annually.
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Well, they're coining it now that NS1 is out of operation, so it's time to spread some LOVE.
 
Major Boredom said:
In the other thread is was linked to a report that people involved confirmed that nothing of sort happened
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www.theguardian.com

Russia’s belief in Nato ‘betrayal’ – and why it matters today

The idea that the Soviet Union was tricked in 1989-90 is at the heart of Russia’s confrontation with the west
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Were these promises ever written down in a treaty?​


No, largely because Bush felt Baker and Kohl had gone too far, or in Baker’s words he had “got a little forward on his skis”.


The final agreement signed by Russia and the west in September 1990 applied only to Germany. It allowed foreign-stationed Nato troops to cross the old cold war line marked by East Germany at the discretion of the German government. The agreement was contained in a signed addendum. Nato’s commitment to protect, enshrined in article 5, had for the first time moved east into former Russian-held territory.
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