The South African town where electricity supply is privatised

You think any significant amount of land in SA needs to be occupied with solar in order to mitigate loadshedding during the day?

Let's look at some very very basic numbers:

Germany is far more densely populated than SA (83 million people to SA's 70 million odd) and has over 66GW of solar installed. South Africa needs a tiny fraction of that capacity to end loadshedding during the day... and Germany fits into SA almost FOUR TIMES.
And there is also that thing that people place on top of buildings - these things are called roofs, and is very useful to place solar panels on. With the amount of sunlight SA gets, new land for solar panels is not even needed in SA.
 
Right, so how is that pumped storage working out for us right now while we sit with stage 6?
I can tell you're not getting it.

They are peaker capacity. Meaning they get used during peak demand times. 2.9GW... Each 1GW generation capacity unavailable at any given time is a stage.

So guess what stage we'd be now if we didn't have them during peak hours... If you're answer is Stage 9, then bingo.
 
And there is also that thing that people place on top of buildings - these things are called roofs, and is very useful to place solar panels on. With the amount of sunlight SA gets, new land for solar panels is not even needed in SA.
Agreed the lack of land argument is just not a thing. I'm shocked anyone even brought it up.

I genuinely don't get the objection to using solar to mitigate daytime loadshedding. It's so cheap and quick to deploy. If the country wants the SA government to build another Medupi or Kusile there's no point. By the time that thing is online the demand will be gone because the country will look like the Congo.

Besides Eskom will just blow it up.
 
yea... the short way of saying that is "15MW".

A 15MW machine running consistently will consume 15MWh each hour.
Yes, but running 2 machines for half an hour will also use 15MWh. What's your point? watt-hours is not a unit to measure power.

BUT WHY DADDY!
 
Yes, but running 2 machines for half an hour will also use 15MWh. What's your point? watt-hours is not a unit to measure power.

BUT WHY DADDY!
It's a measure of consumption agreed, not power.

A machine is a not a 15MWh machine. It's a 15MW machine.

Maybe go back and read how this conversation started?

You're arguing against something I'm not saying.
 
I can tell you're not getting it.

They are peaker capacity. Meaning they get used during peak demand times. 2.9GW... Each 1GW generation capacity unavailable at any given time is a stage.

So guess what stage we'd be now if we didn't have them during peak hours... If you're answer is Stage 9, then bingo.
We are short 20GW right now. Right now the pumped storage is running at maximum and yet we still have stage 6.

BUT WHY DADDY!

1676909468170.png peaker lol!
 
So because a technology isn't perfect we should just ignore it? Better tell half the members of this forum to throw out their solar installations and lithium batteries because the technology is still "in its infancy".
When are you installing yours
 
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