Cape Town checklist for buying a solar power system

WollieVerstege said:
Wait a minute, you say the city compels residents to having a grid connection. The only way to do that is via a bylaw, or law. So if I post evidence of said disconnections, by your logic, I'd be posting evidence of a crime. Not going to prejudice anyone like that.

What I can do is post a copy of my own rates bill showing my fixed charge as R0.00.

The simplest way to resolve this impasse to simply provide the bylaw/law that you say the city is using to force people to stay on the grid.

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He regularly speaks from his ass on topics he has no clue about.
 
WollieVerstege said:
Wait a minute, you say the city compels residents to having a grid connection. The only way to do that is via a bylaw, or law. So if I post evidence of said disconnections, by your logic, I'd be posting evidence of a crime. Not going to prejudice anyone like that.

What I can do is post a copy of my own rates bill showing my fixed charge as R0.00.

The simplest way to resolve this impasse to simply provide the bylaw/law that you say the city is using to force people to stay on the grid.

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How did you do that? And when? Is your solar system registered?
 
WollieVerstege said:
Wait a minute, you say the city compels residents to having a grid connection. The only way to do that is via a bylaw, or law. So if I post evidence of said disconnections, by your logic, I'd be posting evidence of a crime. Not going to prejudice anyone like that.

What I can do is post a copy of my own rates bill showing my fixed charge as R0.00.

The simplest way to resolve this impasse to simply provide the bylaw/law that you say the city is using to force people to stay on the grid.

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If they force you to apply for a grid connection when registering an off-grid solar system, surely it is logical to conclude that grid connections are mandatory, don`t need to sift through the endless socialist bylaws, but I am sure it will be there.
 
Benedict A55h0le said:
How did you do that? And when? Is your solar system registered?
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I previously joked that it is as easy as canceling your TV licence. It is a very arduous process as there is no official document or service request you can submit to do it. I spent weeks on the phone for hours at a time to finally get to the right department to make it happen.
I did mine in 2019, a year after installation and I registered my system the first time the requirement was made public. Zero issues on getting it registered or any queries on my lack of a grid connection.
The other 4 people I know have done it recently, in fact no 4 is getting theirs done this week or next.
Benedict A55h0le said:
If they force you to apply for a grid connection when registering an off-grid solar system, surely it is logical to conclude that grid connections are mandatory, don`t need to sift through the endless socialist bylaws, but I am sure it will be there.
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I have seen no evidence of being forced to apply for a grid connection. What was posted earlier simply stated that if you have an unserviced plot, and you would like a connection, you should submit the application for that connection along with your registration of your SSEG system. Nowhere in any documentation does it state you must apply for it.
 
WollieVerstege said:
I previously joked that it is as easy as canceling your TV licence. It is a very arduous process as there is no official document or service request you can submit to do it. I spent weeks on the phone for hours at a time to finally get to the right department to make it happen.
I did mine in 2019, a year after installation and I registered my system the first time the requirement was made public. Zero issues on getting it registered or any queries on my lack of a grid connection.
The other 4 people I know have done it recently, in fact no 4 is getting theirs done this week or next.

I have seen no evidence of being forced to apply for a grid connection. What was posted earlier simply stated that if you have an unserviced plot, and you would like a connection, you should submit the application for that connection along with your registration of your SSEG system. Nowhere in any documentation does it state you must apply for it.
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2019 They still allowed this. Prove that your friend has a grid connection that now will be removed. From what other people said on this forum, CoCT started to refuse removing the grid connection.
 
Benedict A55h0le said:
2019 They still allowed this. Prove that your friend has a grid connection that now will be removed. From what other people said on this forum, CoCT started to refuse removing the grid connection.
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Under what law/bylaw are they refusing it? This should be stated on the letter of refusal.

Until we know that, any further discussion is moot.
 
WollieVerstege said:
Under what law/bylaw are they refusing it?

Until we know that, any further discussion is moot.
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You can easily prove that you are able to remove the connection easily today. Until you prove that your point is moot. Did you know that not everything CoCT does is in a bylaw. This 1 however I think is in a bylaw, I am just too lazy to do your research.
 
WollieVerstege said:
Under what law/bylaw are they refusing it? This should be stated on the letter of refusal.

Until we know that, any further discussion is moot.
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How about you answer me this question: If you are allowed to remove the connection, why would they enforce you to apply for a connection even if you have an off-grid system? 1+1=....? And this is in a bylaw.
 
Benedict A55h0le said:
You can easily prove that you are able to remove the connection easily today. Until you prove that your point is moot. Did you know that not everything CoCT does is in a bylaw. This 1 however I think is in a bylaw, I am just too lazy to do your research.
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And what proof would you like? Please define it clearly.
If it is not in a bylaw or law, it is illegal and will be overturned in the courts. I have already done the research, as well as my attorney, and neither of us can find ANY law or bylaw that compels you to have a grid connection, but the bold says it all.
Benedict A55h0le said:
How about you answer me this question: If you are allowed to remove the connection, why would they enforce you to apply for a connection even if you have an off-grid system? 1+1=....? And this is in a bylaw.
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There is nowhere in any application to the city where you are compelled to apply for a grid connection if you are installing an off-grid installation on an unserviced plot. Please quote the exact bylaw you are referring to here.
 
Benedict A55h0le said:
I looked at their increases, and they award their own salaries the same increases that they impose on the people/rates & taxes. Rates go up by 15%, then there is a 15% salary increase across the board. While they are killing the middle-class, they make sure they are not part of the slaughter by giving themselves big increases that the private sector can only dream about. The DA living the socialist dream.
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Source please where you see a 15% salary increase across the board
 
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air said:
Source please where you see a 15% salary increase across the board
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Oh please why don`t you do your own dumb research? They give themselves the same increases as the rate increases.

I saw it in the 2020 or 2019 increases, that doc does not exist online anymore.
 
they want you to register inverters and bateries connected to the db, saying that any inverter that is connected in parallel needs to be signed off and registered. more regulations comung next month.

btw, if it plugs in, its considred an appliance.

but then putting a welding plug between the db and inverter means its no longer connected in parallel, it's then an appliance..
 
oh and only allowing a charge current of 25% of the main breaker...

so 15Amps off a 60Amp mains, on 2x lithiums in parallel... lekker man.
 
itareanlnotani said:
Like I said above, they really are implicit CoCT fee's

CoCT requires an engineer signoff, and also require a COC from an electrician.
That **** ain't free.

Sure, CoCT doesn't "charge" for that, but its certainly not something you can do for free.
So again, specious of them.
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If you want something done right do it yourself, or choose someone you trust, as opposed to the State. Just remember that if it goes tits-up don't blame anyone else. (better yet, include collateral in the insurance contract.... boom, next problem!)

I'm not saying do something illegal, just that choosing between legal and safe is not always the same option. How many people have lost their lives after centralizing decision-making in the hands of the State? Comfortably north of 200 million murdered by governments around the world in the 20th century alone, excluding war-dead.

Acting in self-preservation is very difficult to prosecute, in any legal system worth its salt.
 
WollieVerstege said:
I have seen no evidence of being forced to apply for a grid connection. What was posted earlier simply stated that if you have an unserviced plot, and you would like a connection, you should submit the application for that connection along with your registration of your SSEG system. Nowhere in any documentation does it state you must apply for it.
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That’s the way it reads to me too.
 
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