The Western Cape’s plan to quit Eskom

[BusinessTech]

The Western Cape’s plan to quit Eskom

The premier of the Western Cape met with the Former Eskom CEO to develop an energy framework for the Western Cape.

 

[RedViking]

We know. You tell us that every week.

 

[YoungSandwich]

We know. You tell us that every week.

But do they?

 

[RedViking]

But do they?

Don't they?

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Alan winde would get million times better specific advice if only he registers on mybb.

“He said you’ve got to become independent as quickly as possible,” Winde recalled. The outgoing CEO didn’t provide much detail, but expressed that “there’s big trouble ahead and, you know, do what you can,” the premier said.

 

[konfab]

Cape independence is happening whether or not the commies in the north want it.

 

[RedViking]

Cape independence is happening whether or not the commies in the north want it.

As long as you take out your wallet and pay.

 

[itareanlnotani]

The Western Cape’s plan Massive Plan to quit Eskom​

FTFY

 

[konfab]

As long as you take out your wallet and pay.

The miraculous thing about the ANC is that they have managed to make coal power more expensive than renewables.

If they keep electricity prices exactly the same as what we are paying for Eskom, there would be all the money needed to completely switch the grid over to renewables/ natural gas



https://www.csir.co.za/sites/default/files/Documents/WindAC_LCOE_bofinger.pdf

And once you take into account the economic damages of being tied to Eskom, it is a no-brainer.

And the blackpill is that every household and business in the Western Cape is already expecting severe 24/7 load shedding. If they reduce load shedding to a stage 2 between 17:00 and 20:00, every single person in the WC would be overjoyed, With solar and wind, that type of performance is easily achievable.

All costs nowadays have already factored in severe 24/7 load shedding. Even reducing load shedding to a small and dependable evening peak every night unlocks a huge amount of money. Moeny that would be able to plug the gap with batteries/hydro.

 

[Slowestclock]

Cape independence is happening whether or not the commies in the north want it.

Nope, you think the ANC would allow that?

 

[konfab]

Nope, you think the ANC would allow that?

They can't stop it. Most pressing issue right now is electricity.

By the time the DA fixes electricity in the WC, ANC won't have the numbers in parliament to stop some level of independence.

 

[Slowestclock]

I'm not disagreeing with you there, but also communists rarely, if ever give up power willingly.

There's nothing to stop these pensioners who still each other "comrades" to just say "well... F the elections, it's our country, the police and army will do what we say"

Communists governments can easily weaponize the same forces meant to protect the people against them.

But also... I'm being quite the pessimist here.

Genuinely hope the WC sets the tone for the rest of SA going forward

 

[konfab]

I'm not disagreeing with you there, but also communists rarely, if ever give up power willingly.

ANC are a unique brand of commies in that they are devastatingly incompetent. They are not even able to pay their own staff.

There's nothing to stop these pensioners who still each other "comrades" to just say "well... F the elections, it's our country, the police and army will do what we say"

In the ANC, there isn't that risk because of the said incompetence. The danger will be a EFF/ANC coalition, where the ANC basically gets eaten up by the EFF. Then we are looking at a Zimbabwe situation where opposition leaders are getting arrested.

Communists governments can easily weaponize the same forces meant to protect the people against them.

They have the problem that their ideology has actually failed in SA. Almost No-one believes their ideology.

But also... I'm being quite the pessimist here.

Genuinely hope the WC sets the tone for the rest of SA going forward

You have to be realistic. Look at what is actually happening. This interview of Frans Cronje is where I am at in terms of optimism.

A fourth is that our civil rights culture is chiefly intact. A cliché of the fascist playbook is that under pressure a liberation movement government will turn to the suppression of civil rights to cling to power. This year in both Venezuela and Zimbabwe arrest warrants were issued for opposition leaders, while numbers of opposition activists have been thrown into jail. That is not happening in SA; and political parties, the free media and civil society are generally left in peace to say and do whatever they wish.

A fifth is that the fascist playbook further dictates turning to the printing presses under political pressure so that inflation might sufficiently wreck an economy to enable a populist dictatorship to supplant democracy. Yet when the finance minister delivered his budget on Wednesday the extent of his government’s fiscal prudence was striking, especially given the poor outlook for growth and revenue — prudence that echoes that of his predecessors of 15 years ago.

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/o...positives-amid-the-overly-dark-national-mood/

If you go and read the budget, specifically what they are doing with Eskom, you will see the ANC is going to privatise Eskom. Eskom isn't going to be building any power stations, nor will they be hiking renumeration.







And then from the budget:


In other words, they want to hand over all coal power stations that are saveable to private operators to run.


https://www.treasury.gov.za/documents/National Budget/2023/review/Annexure W3.pdf
Compare this to what they were saying a few months ago:

Energy minister Gwede Mantashe says that a new second power generation company would fall under his department and generate electricity alongside Eskom.

He told the Sunday Times that a move to renewables was more “ideological than technical”. Were it not for this ideology, the country would already have Karpowership’s floating power plants up and running, he said.

President Cyril Ramaphosa said earlier in the week that the creation of a new energy-producing system would assist in alleviating the risk posed by the failings of the current system.

Mantashe told the media that a second state-owned company would need more power stations to be built. “So what we are suggesting — it’s not a decision yet — is let’s have a second generation company of the state, and that generation company must focus on baseload, and there must be a build programme for power stations,” Mantashe said.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/ene...ould-be-established-in-his-department-report/

 

[Benedict A55h0le not]

ANC has a plan, mini-ANC also has a plan, everyone has a plan!

 

[Sworaxe]

As long as you take out your wallet and pay.

Something Something All problems and money and so on and so forth.

 

[d0b33]

Cape independence is happening whether or not the commies in the north want it.

People in the WC are warming up to the idea. I think the DA sees it as a plan B as they've failed to win a national election, and never will. If it does happen, war is inevitable.

 

[noxibox]

I'm not disagreeing with you there, but also communists rarely, if ever give up power willingly.

Which in itself proves they aren't actually communists.

 

[porchrat]

People in the WC are warming up to the idea. I think the DA sees it as a plan B as they've failed to win a national election, and never will. If it does happen, war is inevitable.

By the time SANDF gets enough labourers together to push their fat personnel into the back of the transport vehicles the war will be over.

 

[Fulcrum29]

As long as you take out your wallet and pay.

At least we won't end up with labour vouchers.

 

[Benedict A55h0le not]

By the time SANDF gets enough labourers together to push their fat personnel into the back of the transport vehicles the war will be over.

The war will be against immigrants, not the SANDF.