Andre De Ruyter leaves Eskom with immediate effect

surface said:
Won't you wait for the book ? "How I was crucified like Jesus just because of my skin color" penned by modern day William Wallace
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I think he will wait longer than than just for this book before he admits his heroes can be wrong, like until Jesus comes.
 
TheChamp said:
Looks like Daily Maverick are saying it doesn't matter to submit evidence because nothing will happen anyway, but to me it's simple, the person who makes claims and submits evidence or at the very least owns up to the accusations is the one who has the credibility and moral high ground.

Many people did just that even though the cases never went anywhere, people like Themba Maseko, he never went to the press and said some high ranking politician told me to do this and that for some well connected family, he told us straight that Zuma called me and told me to do this and that for the Guptas, those are the people I respect, even if there was no way they could prove their accusations I still find them credible.

De Ruyter has simply not passed the test of credibility as far as his accusations about the high ranking ministers looting Eskom are concerned, it's as simple as that, no matter what Daily Maverick says, until such a time he owns up to his accusations.
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De Ruyters claims certainly have more credibility than Mantashes ones against him. Yet one still has their job and you seem to be upset more with De Ruyter than Gwede.
 
Unhappy438 said:
De Ruyters claims certainly have more credibility than Mantashes ones against him. Yet one still has their job and you seem to be upset more with De Ruyter than Gwede.
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Yeah, you and me are also more credible than Mantashe. What an excellent bar to compare against, hey ?
 
surface said:
Yeah, you and me are also more credible than Mantashe. What an excellent bar to compare against, hey ?
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Yes a great bar, the man is only in a high level government position. Much goodness.
 
TheChamp said:
Well, no chance now of De Ruyter being appointed as a Minister, so there is nothing I can do about it.
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Of course ostrich champ, there never is, we should all just keep quiet when it comes to our ANC overlords. Not all of us get to eat at the trough however.
 
surface said:
Didn't take you as ADR worshipper. Interesting.
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TheChamp said:
It's behind a paywall and it's talking about him briefing the commissioner on corruption at Eskom, that doesn't interest me much, was the corruption particularly involving the ANC ministers part of that?
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@ToxicBunny It has begun.
that doesn't interest me much, was the corruption particularly involving the ANC ministers part of that?
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Wasn't your argument (or one of them anyway) about why didn't he go to the authorities apparently? And now we know he did, that he went to the national police commissioner.

But anyway, you need to up your reasonable explanation game.
 
surface said:
Won't you wait for the book ? "How I was crucified like Jesus just because of my skin color" penned by modern day William Wallace
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I'd rather wait for the top-seller "The Insurmountable Chip on my Shoulder" by the Perth Braai Spymaster...
 
Unhappy438 said:
Yes a great bar, the man is only in a high level government position. Much goodness.
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My point is that allegedly corrupt (since he is not proven guilty yet) Mantashe cannot possibly be used as any benchmark unless it is corruption benchmark.

ADR may have the best intentions (in eskom and post eskom) but so far by not revealing any names, he is exactly acting like 'I am gonna spill the beans' guy we all know. If there any beans he spilled to police, at least present that evidence. Nearly everyone agrees there is huge corruption in government but apart from that, what have you really learnt from all his affidavits? Any names yet?

I also know lot of things but I fear for my life coz Babita Deokaran tactic is not going to work.
 
PrimeSteak said:
@ToxicBunny It has begun.

Wasn't your argument (or one of them anyway) about why didn't he go to the authorities to report the Minister or ministers involved in Eskom corruption apparently? And now we know he did, that he went to the national police commissioner.

But anyway, you need to up your reasonable explanation game.
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There.

I am sure he has reported a lot of corruption to the cops, otherwise no one would have been arrested at Eskom, so yes, that doesn't interest me because it looks like public knowledge, it's not the headline I want to see.
 
dualmeister said:
When did he do this?
News 24 = pay walled.
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July 2022 according to the article. The narrative now is 'weren't aware of any names'.

A second briefing on 10 July 2022 was attended by Mufamadi and Gordhan, and the names of the two senior officials allegedly linked to the cartels in Mpumalanga were shared again.

Despite this, Mufamadi denied he was told the names.
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surface said:
My point is that allegedly corrupt (since he is not proven guilty yet) Mantashe cannot possibly be used as any benchmark unless it is corruption benchmark.

ADR may have the best intentions (in eskom and post eskom) but so far by not revealing any names, he is exactly acting like 'I am gonna spill the beans' guy we all know. If there any beans he spilled to police, at least present that evidence. Nearly everyone agrees there is huge corruption in government but apart from that, what have you really learnt from all his affidavits? Any names yet?

I also know lot of things but I fear for my life coz Babita Deokaran tactic is not going to work.
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Lol so your argument is we dont have any criticism for Matashe because hes crap but for De Ruyter we do because he is good? I struggle to fathom this.
 
Unhappy438 said:
Lol so your argument is we dont have any criticism for Matashe because hes crap but for De Ruyter we do because he is good? I struggle to fathom this.
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FFS - Mantashe is absolutely corrupt - why TF are you guys using him as any kind of benchmark.

Anyways - I think you are poisoned by the "collective" mentality on mybb and my point will not reach you.
 
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