Andre De Ruyter leaves Eskom with immediate effect

Even this is quite flattering, as de Ruyter got in at a stage when Eskom was already dead. The only thing he could do was try to get renewables added to the grid. Mantashe said no though, and at the same time accused him of treason.

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ToxicBunny said:
I think the intelligent ones at the ANC are scrambling at the moment.

FearFokol has more than likely properly Fikile'd them now.
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I am curious what exactly has been served on De Ruyter. In other media it seems to be demands... basically an ultimatum, and they have given him 7 days to respond, or otherwise they will take him to court. In this instance, though there is willingness, they still need to show the intent and motive to take him to court.

At some point in time, evidence has to be provided, and The Daily Maverick did point to evidence being collected. There is a chance that De Ruyter might not respond in detail, I am sure that the ANC will receive a comprehensive report, stipulating evidence, in short time.

It is more a question as to who is behind the private investigations. Some media is privy, De Ruyter unleashed it into public, but who else? Are other Eskom board members also aware or involved, are the state involved… but what I can say, no such investigation will take place without one or more legal entities involved, because it will be plastered in legalities. I won't be surprised that this has all been deliberately put into motion to draw on a reaction. Whoever is behind this, is showing urgency where others didn't, so it could be civil rights movements, business or both.

I don't want to speculate too much, this will unravel. In the case evidence is presented, what will the ANC do with the evidence, how will the state react? What they will buy is time, and they will make sure that this time is process burdened.

Anyhow, The Daily Maverick can get to Part 2 already.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I am curious what exactly has been served on De Ruyter. In other media it seems to be demands... basically an ultimatum, and they have given him 7 days to respond, or otherwise they will take him to court. In this instance, though there is willingness, they still need to show the intent and motive to take him to court.

At some point in time, evidence has to be provided, and The Daily Maverick did point to evidence being collected. There is a chance that De Ruyter might not respond in detail, I am sure that the ANC will receive a comprehensive report, stipulating evidence, in short time.

It is more a question as to who is behind the private investigations. Some media is privy, De Ruyter unleashed it into public, but who else? Are other Eskom board members also aware or involved, are the state involved… but what I can say, no such investigation will take place without one or more legal entities involved, because it will be plastered in legalities. I won't be surprised that this has all been deliberately put into motion to draw on a reaction. Whoever is behind this, is showing urgency where others didn't, so it could be civil rights movements, business or both.

I don't want to speculate too much, this will unravel. In the case evidence is presented, what will the ANC do with the evidence, how will the state react? What they will buy is time, and they will make sure that this time is process burdened.

Anyhow, The Daily Maverick can get to Part 2 already.
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Maybe the ANC has found an opportunity to rid itself of the two Ministers and still come out of it looking good?

They pester De Ruyter, threaten him and take him to court until he cracks and reveal the names, the ANC takes all the credit for forcing him to come out with the truth, they tell everyone that this shows their commitment to rooting out corruption, the two Ministers are then asked to step aside, some investigation gets underway and gets nowhere.

When everyone has forgotten about it and De Ruyter is chilling somewhere in Canada they quietly redeploy them somewhere.
 
Pak Fa Fui said:
All these allegations need to be categorised and investigated independently
Reporting a R200000 broom to the police under the category of corruption as part of his fact finding mission then claiming it as a banner for reporting corruption to the police is really a joke
We are really past the stealing pennies stage, what evidence of the 1 billion a month allegation does he have
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You must be really tired of moving the goal posts around the whole day. ANC acolyte level 100.
 
Vrotappel said:
LOL it seems he about told everybody about it. Now we want to know what those people did with the information. We want to see the ANCs in jail.
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Then he must do the right thing and tell us all about what he knows
 
Unhappy438 said:
Of course ostrich champ, there never is, we should all just keep quiet when it comes to our ANC overlords. Not all of us get to eat at the trough however.
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But we have to keep filling that trough!!

TheChamp said:
Looks like News24 had to unpaywall their scoop after IOL published it. Looks like a nice stalemate, both De Ruyter and Mufamadi were not available for comment.

www.news24.com

EXCLUSIVE | De Ruyter briefed brigadier, commissioner and president's advisor on Eskom corruption | News24

Former Eskom chief executive André de Ruyter personally briefed the highest-ranking police official in the country - national police commissioner General Fannie Masemola - on allegations of corruption at Eskom allegedly extending to two senior ANC government officials.
www.news24.com www.news24.com
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Are you really holding IOL up as a credible source?

TheChamp said:
Taking each other to court can only be good for transparency and accountability, nothing annoys me more than people falling over themselves on untested allegations and innuendos, so game on I say.
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But when you have the "Hlophe" syndrome, how much credibility do we still put in our court system?
Jings said:
De Ruyter's lawyers will be required to exchange evidence with ANC's lawyers for the court case. It would be very telling if the ANC withdraws the case. It's too late for them to back out.
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I think the ANC lawyers know a LOT more than ADR's lawyers. What they don't know is how much does the other side know. So perhaps this is a way to find out.

Pak Fa Fui said:
Then he must do the right thing and tell us all about what he knows
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And compromise any ongoing investigations?
 
ghaye said:
But when you have the "Hlophe" syndrome, how much credibility do we still put in our court system?
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Give it time, even you will be amazed at your newly found confidence in the justice system when the court comes to a decision you like, like the court telling the ANC to get lost on their recent legal challenge against De Ruyter.
 
TheChamp said:
Give it time, even you will be amazed at your newly found confidence in the justice system when the court comes to a decision you like, like the court telling them to get lost on their recent legal challenge against De Ruyter.
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Yes fair enough, but happens when the result is not what we expect (notice I didn't say want)? You know, like the Seriti Commission that we all knew was utter BS.
 
Vrotappel said:
maroelamedia.co.za

Ramaphosa nou ‘regstreeks betrek’ by ‘verdoesel’ van Eskom-korrupsie - Maroela Media

“Dit is duidelik dat die president ʼn volle agt maande lank van die identiteite van die korrupte ministers in sy kabinet geweet het, en dat hy dus nie net vir die nasie gelieg en hul in die steek gelaat het nie, maar homself ernstig benadeel het.”
maroelamedia.co.za maroelamedia.co.za

CR need to answer on what he did with the information AdR shared.
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He is ill give him time. He needs to plan who the fall guy will be in any case. And by fall guy I mean who gets to retire on a golf estate with medical parole.
 
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