'Not incitement of violence': EFF downplays Mpumalanga leader posing with semi-automatic rifle

MentellusMaximus said:
The SAPS will not come to protect or save you, you are dependent on your low income armed security, or yourself, or in your case, someone else with a gun.
Do you really think any government organization in South Africa is there to 'serve' you?
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By the time SAPS arrive to attend to your distress call, you are a victim of a crime. Knowing the savagery of the people carrying out crime in this toilet, you will be badly injured or dead. I'll take my chances with an armed society, thank you.
 
neoprema said:
So you're saying voting public wanting gun control enforced will be forced by those with guns to not vote for it or enforce a democratically voted rule?

You like literally just confirmed what i said is the reason we need to get rid of weapons lol.
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South Africa has some of the strictest gun control worldwide.
 
William Foster said:
By the time SAPS arrive to attend to your distress call, you are a victim of a crime. Knowing the savagery of the people carrying out crime in this toilet, you will be badly injured or dead. I'll take my chances with an armed society, thank you.
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But surely of only the SAPS have guns all the illegal guns in circulation will magically disappear?

Add to that, if the general public vote against public gun ownership, and for crime to end, crime will cease to exist, criminals will hand in their guns and stop stealing guns from the SAPS and SANDF as well (since crime stopped after the vote) - like blackouts stopped when De Ruyter left Eskom...
 
William Foster said:
By the time SAPS arrive to attend to your distress call, you are a victim of a crime. Knowing the savagery of the people carrying out crime in this toilet, you will be badly injured or dead. I'll take my chances with an armed society, thank you.
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An armed society is a polite society.
 
MentellusMaximus said:
But surely of only the SAPS have guns all the illegal guns in circulation will magically disappear?

Add to that, if the general public vote against public gun ownership, and for crime to end, crime will cease to exist, criminals will hand in their guns and stop stealing guns from the SAPS and SANDF as well (since crime stopped after the vote) - like blackouts stopped when De Ruyter left Eskom...
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Ban guns for the criminals - Karen 06/03/2023
 
konfab said:
That wasn't what I said. If you call the police to help deal with an intruder, do you think they have a legal obligation to put themselves in harms way to protect you?

The question wasn't whether you think they should have the duty to protect people, the question is whether they actually have that legal duty.

In the US, they do not, despite all the bluster about oaths to "serve and protect" they have no such duty. In fact a private citizen who has signed exactly the same contract is more legally liable to do it than the police, despite the police being infinitely more suitable for the task.

If the police have no legal duty to protect people, then that duty must fall on the individuals themselves, which requires the right to own firearms.

In Uvalde, the police stood outside a school with a gunman inside it because they don't have the duty to defend the lives of people.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61877914

Look at SAPS when the proles are on a looting spree, does SAPS defend the property of people despite it being written into the constitution of the country that their job is to defend property.
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Yet here in the video below, the Police are standing by and allowing the looting to take place, despite them having a constitutional directive to protect people's property.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1590382188478205952

That is why the second amendment exists.
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Flapping your arms like a fairy is not going to help :laugh:
 
SlinkyMike said:
No different to Mybroederbonders ranting about civil war. He just has clout which not even one of you chops do.
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ToxicBunny said:
I'm more than slightly concerned that they don't know how many firearms have been taken by now... It should have taken them the sum total of 10 minutes to know the conclusive answer to that.
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Inventory management and counting must be their strong point.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I'm more than slightly concerned that they don't know how many firearms have been taken by now... It should have taken them the sum total of 10 minutes to know the conclusive answer to that.
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Probably because they had no idea how many they had to begin with, or how many they have already lost/sold before this incident.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I'm more than slightly concerned that they don't know how many firearms have been taken by now... It should have taken them the sum total of 10 minutes to know the conclusive answer to that.
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Totally useless... SAPS... Stupid and Pathetically Slow...
 
dualmeister said:
The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) has downplayed a photo of its Mpumalanga leader posing with a rifle, saying it does not constitute incitement of violence.

Collen Sedibe, who is a member of the provincial legislature posted the photo on his Twitter account on Saturday night, with the caption: "By all means necessary or possible we are ready @EFFSouthAfrica."

In the photo, he dons his red regalia and holds the semi-automatic rifle in one hand, while his other hand rests in his pocket.

This post comes two weeks before the EFF's national shutdown on 20 March, to protest against continuous load shedding and to call for President Cyril Ramaphosa to resign.

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this is my rifle. this is my gun.

Seems he is on the good stuff?
 
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