Ramaphosa criticised for feeding the bloat

sand_man said:
Sabotaged in the sense that those working on repairing the generators aren't qualified maybe? But not sabatoge in the true sense of the word.
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A good point, but how big must the coincidence be for different generation units at different locations to fail on the same day? It's also not the same units that keep on failing, so the chances of it being the same guys "fixing" these units are also not high
 
Kung Fu Porkchop said:
So, you say it's expected that a number of generation units at different locations fail on the same day? A random coincidence or just bad luck?

And this is not just one day. It's been happening for months.
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Since we are getting so confused on what I said how about we just cut to the chase and provide proof of this? Or at the very least a source that's better than a random tweet from a nobody?

Jings said:
Cartel names

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632718703635623938
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TheChamp said:
Oh yaaawwwnnn, I am sure everyone knows that there are Eskom units that have failed, so tell me something that I don't already know, the part where it says the 5 units that failed are due to sabotage by those cartels, where is it?
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You aren't Dali Mpofu, so stop trying to debate like you're some towering intellectual, you aren't and neither is he.
 
TheChamp said:
Oh yaaawwwnnn, I am sure everyone knows that there are Eskom units that have failed, so tell me something that I don't already know, the part where it says the 5 units that failed are due to sabotage by those cartels, where is it?
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Well I guess now we know you have zero common sense
 
TheChamp said:
Oh yaaawwwnnn, I am sure everyone knows that there are Eskom units that have failed, so tell me something that I don't already know, the part where it says the 5 units that failed are due to sabotage by those cartels, where is it?
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You've got to admit that the units across the country consistently failing on the same days is rather suspicious.
 
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porchrat said:
You've got to admit that the units across the country constantly failing on the same days is rather suspicious.
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I never said anything regarding the failure of the units by the way, whether it is suspicious or not is not my point.

My point is, we don't have any business making excuses on behalf of Eskom with manufactured stories, by doing so we absolve Eskom from accountability, Eskom must come out and tell us that their units have failed because of sabotage, incompetence from their workers or whatever the reason might be, they are the authority on their operations, not some random tweet from a nobody.

Eskom has not said anything about their units failing because of sabotage from the mentioned cartels, instead of made up stories maybe we should be asking Eskom why they have multiple units failing, and Eskom must account, we don't have any obligation to be making excuses for Eskom, and I don't have any obligation to believe some random tweet about sabotage. We really should stop this nonsense of believing something because it says what we want to hear, we are so much better than that.
 
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TheChamp said:
I never said anything regarding the failure of the units by the way, whether it is suspicious or not is not my point.

My point is, we don't have any business making excuses on behalf of Eskom with manufactured stories, by doing so we absolve Eskom from accountability, Eskom must come out and tell us that their units have failed because of sabotage, incompetence from their workers or whatever the reason might be, they are the authority on their operations, not some random tweet from a nobody.

Eskom has not said anything about their units failing because of sabotage from the mentioned cartels, instead of made up stories maybe we should be asking Eskom why they have multiple units failing, and Eskom must account, we don't have any obligation to be making excuses for Eskom, and I don't have any obligation to believe some random tweet about sabotage. We really should stop this nonsense of believing something because it says what we want to hear, we are so much better than that.
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Agreed.

I just can't see how generation units can trip over and over again all at the same time.

It's also curious that the power stations like Tutuka, regarded as the worst sites of corruption, seem to have the most consistently failing units.
 
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