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wbot said:
Uh no, no we haven't. It's everywhere, just have a look around. And it's not just conservatives being targeted by trans people btw.
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When was the last time you saw a story about trans people in SA? I know this is the US politics thread but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a story about a trans person/issue in this country.
 
Well done to whichever Democrats cross the aisle today. Can't believe even Chuck the Schmuck will even vote for the Republicans. Who cares much about what AOC thinks? She's largely powerless in the grander scheme of things... :cool:

How is the #DefundThePolice going?

Democrats splinter ahead of Senate vote on Washington DC crime code

More than a dozen Democratic senators are expected to cross the political aisle on Wednesday to vote with Republicans on an effort that is being billed as a litmus test of whether President Joe Biden’s party is too soft on crime.

The closely watched vote on Capitol Hill is the culmination of a Republican bid to strike down proposed changes to the criminal code in Washington DC that would reduce penalties for violent crimes such as carjackings and robberies in the nation’s capital.

It has taken on greater significance after Chicago voters last week ousted their Democratic mayor following an increase in violent crime, and amid fears the Republican party is breaking through with voters by claiming their opponents care more about criminals than law and order.

“Those attacks work; crime matters to people,” said Matt Bennett, co-founder of Third Way, a centrist Democratic think-tank. “Republicans are very good at demagoguing on it . . . you have got to respond, and you have got to respond very directly and forcefully.”

At issue is an attempt by local councillors to overhaul the District of Columbia’s criminal code. Republicans in Congress, which has oversight of the changes, launched an effort to override the proposed new code, effectively daring Democrats to vote against them.

The Republican party had appeared to be boxing Democrats into a corner, prompting a frenetic few days of political manoeuvring that started with Biden saying he would not veto the bill; by Tuesday, Chuck Schumer, the Democratic Senate majority leader, declared that he would vote with Republicans in blocking the overhaul.

“I’m going to vote ‘yes’,” Schumer told reporters. “It was a close question, but on balance I’m voting ‘yes’.”

In capitulating to the Republican push, Democratic party leaders are risking the ire of progressives such as congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who has said the president should “respect” the local authorities in DC and stay out of the issue.
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Cray said:
When was the last time you saw a story about trans people in SA? I know this is the US politics thread but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a story about a trans person/issue in this country.
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Or any other country. I see this being brought up in USA and the UK.

All I see is stories authored by conservatives aimed at conservatives.

99.9% of trans people just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace. The handful I have met in real life are constantly terrified of being harassed. They keep a low profile.

Tiktok and Twitter are NOT real life.
 
Cray said:
When was the last time you saw a story about trans people in SA? I know this is the US politics thread but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a story about a trans person/issue in this country.
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Seen it a few times on SA tv actually. Quite a few ads and chats on dstv and sabc featuring trans people and trans rights. Even our government has talked about the issue. Granted it doesn't happen as much here as in the US or Europe but I still see it. I don't have an issue with trans people here in SA because for now at least they're not quite on the same activist levels as elswehere.
 
wbot said:
Seen it a few times on SA tv actually. Quite a few ads and chats on dstv and sabc featuring trans people and trans rights. Even our government has talked about the issue. Granted it doesn't happen as much here as in the US or Europe but I still see it. I don't have an issue with trans people here in SA because for now at least they're not quite on the same activist levels as elswehere.
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Maybe that's because here in SA there aren't a bunch of Q-anon freaks trying to take their rights away.
 
Cray said:
When was the last time you saw a story about trans people in SA? I know this is the US politics thread but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a story about a trans person/issue in this country.
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That applies to most 'excitable' topics really, gay pride, trans, abortion protests, Islamic terrorism etc. Just does not feature in SA as people generally don't give a schit about it. The big one in SA is Race.

When you hear about this schit it's 99% from the US (this is the US politics forum). There was a thread somewhere with an article about Twitter 'noise' only representing something like 2% of the views being an amplified echo chamber the media and politicians latch onto.

The average American is concerned about jobs, economy, crime etc be it Dem or Rep and don't really care for this gender business the politicians are punting.

Someone mentioned that when you see outrage/offense about a white woman wearing a komono or a white person acting as a Chinese character etc you will find the locals are not in the least offended by it but the ones offended will mostly from the US, white, liberal, well off, never had hardship in life and basically bored or something to that effect.
 
tetrasect said:
Maybe that's because here in SA there aren't a bunch of Q-anon freaks trying to take their rights away.
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TIL that people like feminists, girls in sport and lesbians etc are Qanon freaks. Not everyone you don't like is a Qanon nutter.
 
AlmightyBender said:
Or any other country. I see this being brought up in USA and the UK.

All I see is stories authored by conservatives aimed at conservatives.

99.9% of trans people just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace. The handful I have met in real life are constantly terrified of being harassed. They keep a low profile.

Tiktok and Twitter are NOT real life.
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Bwhahaah and yet you have tripe like this.

www.mediamatters.org

CPAC endorses eliminationist rhetoric as speaker Michael Knowles says “transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely”

www.mediamatters.org www.mediamatters.org

But then those outlets lawyers notified them it's very problematic lying like that and..

www.theblaze.com

Leftist media backtracks after false reports that conservative host said at CPAC that transgender people 'must be eradicated'

During his speech Saturday at CPAC, Daily Wire host Michael Knowles said, "For the good of society … transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely — the whole preposterous ideology, at every level."Knowles was underscoring how deleterious the transsexual movement has been, not just...
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The left is obsessed with cancelling people who don't agree with their ideology even if it is in their own ranks. Recently JK Rowling for example.
Look at all the pathetic protests every time someone speaks at a place the view as a "safe space".

You're right in that they don't represent the majority in the US, but they sure as hell make the most noise. Until society learns to ignore this noise things will get worse.
I'm glad they are raising a stink over nothingburgers like cultural appropriation or faux virtual signalling through identity politics. Or bizarre fallacies like "Trans woman are woman!".
People that believe such nonsense can now be laughed into obscurity where they belong.

You are living in a nice little bubble and don't even see the bigger picture nor the repercussions of the rhetoric espoused by those on the far-left.
And yes it's present even in Europe. You bemoan rhetoric from the right where it is most reactionary to that of the left. Balance needs to be achieved.
 
wbot said:
Seen it a few times on SA tv actually. Quite a few ads and chats on dstv and sabc featuring trans people and trans rights. Even our government has talked about the issue. Granted it doesn't happen as much here as in the US or Europe but I still see it. I don't have an issue with trans people here in SA because for now at least they're not quite on the same activist levels as elswehere.
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Luckily despite all the problems our government has they still know what a woman is. Now if only they can figure out the rest..
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Well done to whichever Democrats cross the aisle today. Can't believe even Chuck the Schmuck will even vote for the Republicans. Who cares much about what AOC thinks? She's largely powerless in the grander scheme of things... :cool:

How is the #DefundThePolice going?

Democrats splinter ahead of Senate vote on Washington DC crime code
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So Dems are only doing this because they might lose voters.. Fairweather politicians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1633209688966717442
 
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Kieppie said:
Remember this little old nugget...

townhall.com

FBI's Stunning Answers When Grilled By Ted Cruz Asking if Any Feds Were Part of Capitol Riot

Jill Sanborn, the FBI's executive assistant director of the National Security Branch, was unable
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Meaning yes there were agents involved in it.
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Yeah it was the FBI who planned the whole thing. Undercover agents organized the rally and convinced thousands of people to storm the capitol to try and prevent the transfer of power so that Trump could stay president forever. o_O
 
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tetrasect said:
Yeah it was the FBI who planned the whole thing. Undercover agents organized the rally and convinced thousands of people to storm the capitol to try and prevent the transfer of power so that Trump could stay president forever. o_O
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Ah strawmanning to the extreme, classic... :rolleyes:
Perhaps go look at the methods they employed previously.
If the agents were not involved then the answer to Cruz's questions would be "No".

Hahaha imagine being this naïve to think that this would benefit Trump in anyway way whatsoever

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Kieppie said:
Ah strawmanning to the extreme, classic... :rolleyes:
Perhaps go look at the methods they employed previously.
If the agents were not involved then the answer to Cruz's questions would be "No".

Hahaha imagine being this naïve to think that this would benefit Trump in anyway way whatsoever
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And the thousands upon thousands of messages on Parler of people saying they are gonna storm the capitol building was also just a massive psyop. In fact it was the biggest psyop ever made. Tens of thousands of undercover FBI agents, posting messages and videos, printing T-shirts and making guillotines.
Say what you will about sleepy Joe but he sure knows how to run an undercover operation.
 
tetrasect said:
And the thousands upon thousands of messages on Parler of people saying they are gonna storm the capitol building was also just a massive psyop. In fact it was the biggest psyop ever made. Tens of thousands of undercover FBI agents, posting messages and videos, printing T-shirts and making guillotines.
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Haha that's your problem for not understanding the language people use. Storming the capital just means going there en masse. Which is where they had a permit to go to. You know which is why their was fencing set up ahead of time as well as police presence? Let me guess you believe the guillotines means they actually wanted to murder Pence :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Once you have a large crowd with some unruly elements its not very hard to instigate them into certain actions. Which we know for a fact the FBI does and have done numerous time in the past.
Just go look at the case regarding SS Whitmer. Just so much FBI involvement that the case fell flat.

Heck we heard testimony, among the numerous false claims under oath, about how the FBI has infiltrated the "extremist" groups.
Try using your brain a tad more. There are numerous "odd" bits already. Things such as Ray Epps, who "miraculously" escaped justice despite being on video as one of the main agitators.
Now add the footage that even the BBC say is "previously unaired" footage. In other words they painted an incomplete picture surprising absolutely no one that paid any attention.
Yet you believe the initial narrative hook line and sinker and desperately cling to it for some reason?

tetrasect said:
Say what you will about sleepy Joe but he sure knows how to run an undercover operation.
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Nope he's just sleepy Joe.
 
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