Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 8

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Gramps66 said:
Shame they will probably use it when they invade the next small country that has gas and oil reserves. Huffing and Puffing since WW2 ended but never attacked Russia directly with their superior weapons , according to you. It was nice to drop nuclear bombs on Japanese civilians when you where the only that had them. Like the weasels they are , they never attacked or invaded a country that have nuclear weapons.
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When was the last time a country with Nuclear weapons was invaded....?
 
viper13 said:
The B21 made it's big reveal a couple of months ago so I don't know what this is supposed to be pushing. As I stated back then, I was hoping that it would be a little more dramatic in its look because it looks a damn lot like the B2.

As for the tactics of the Ruskies, siege warfare has been proven time and time again to be extremely effective even though it is quite devastating and leaves nothing usable behind. Just like the US that uses airstrikes and long range strikes. They don't waiver from that approach either. Each country picks their own strategy and usually sticks with it and hopefully hones it over the years.
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The vatniks have used *four* battle strategies in Ukraine so far, shifting to the next as the first fails...

Blitzkrieg > Heavy Tank assault > Infantry fighting vehicle assault > Assault infantry.

All the while they've used terror tactics by bombing civilians and cities... so... using your last, 'hopefully hones it over the years' bit, would you say it's really terrorism that Russia has honed, 'cos their battlefield tactics sure seem like a work in progress?
 
viper13 said:
As for the tactics of the Ruskies, siege warfare has been proven time and time again to be extremely effective even though it is quite devastating and leaves nothing usable behind.
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Yes, when you have cheap uneducated and plentiful cannon fodder you can sacrifice and your civilian populace is subjugated by fear.

The West's soldiers and their equipment are expensive and there is the point of unacceptable loss they have to contend with that Russia doesn't when the civilian populace rebels against the number of soldiers killed.
 
Also known as CBU-100, Ukraine’s reported plan for the weapons would not involve dropping them from combat aircraft. Instead, they would take the Mk 20s apart and their submunitions would be adapted into bomblets that will be dropped by lower-end drones
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www.thedrive.com

Ukraine Wants U.S. Cluster Bombs But Not For What You Think

Ukraine is asking the U.S. for Mk 20 Rockeye cluster bombs to dissect and use its submunitions for a unique purpose.
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greg0205 said:
The vatniks have used *four* battle strategies in Ukraine so far, shifting to the next as the first fails...

Blitzkrieg > Heavy Tank assault > Infantry fighting vehicle assault > Assault infantry.

All the while they've used terror tactics by bombing civilians and cities... so... using your last, 'hopefully hones it over the years' bit, would you say it's really terrorism that Russia has honed, 'cos their battlefield tactics sure seem like a work in progress?
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Sure, terrorism, just like the US has done for the last 50 years as well. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

The Ruskies tried to obviously get into Ukraine quickly and get done what they wanted to do (i.e. take out top Zelensky and seize Kyiv) and hit specific key points before anybody could implement any sanctions, etc. That didn't work so then they devolved back to normal ground attack but that had to evolve also as it is not a normal open battlefield where you can clearly make a distinction between parties. This is more like guerilla tactics within a country where everybody looks the same and sounds the same. So, then they fell back to what they know, artillery, artillery, artillery. That is the Russian way of doing things, just like the US is long range strikes and airstrikes.
 
viper13 said:
Why not just use grenades and mortars like they've been doing?
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A better form, fit and function solution as a cluster warhead's deployment more closely resembles being dropped from a drone than a mortar or grenade.
 
viper13 said:
Why not just use grenades and mortars like they've been doing?
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DUH, because it works nothing like those two things. Its a HEAT submunition.

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Blu82 said:
A better form, fit and function solution as a cluster warhead's deployment more closely resembles being dropped from a drone than a mortar or grenade.
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For example grenades require 3D printed fins for accuracy and you probably need to mess with a mortar's fuze to make it work. The US is also sitting on stockpiles of them which they are busy decommissioning.
 
Blu82 said:
For example grenades require 3D printed fins for accuracy and you probably need to mess with a mortar's fuze to make it work. The US is also sitting on stockpiles of them which they are busy decommissioning.
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Mortar rounds are too heavy for most drones, anyway Ukraine is currently dropping HE grenades this adds the AT , so that's a high explosive anti tank munition. Quite different from your usual standard high explosive grenades.
 
viper13 said:
Why not just use grenades and mortars like they've been doing?
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Had you read the link you quoted, you would have seen this:

Rep. Smith is quoted in the Reuters article as saying that the Ukrainian military believes the Mk 20’s bomblets will be more effective in piercing Russian armor than the various munitions it has previously adapted to arm its small drones.

The move wouldn’t be a blatant deviation from the tactics Ukraine has employed, as weaponized drones of many types have been widely leveraged by the country’s military in its defense against Russia’s invasion. Beyond its kinetic effects, the fact that the Mk 118 submunition is fin-stabilized and has a reliable fuze would likely make it very attractive for Ukraine’s drone operations.
 
Gramps66 said:
Shame they will probably use it when they invade the next small country that has gas and oil reserves. Huffing and Puffing since WW2 ended but never attacked Russia directly with their superior weapons , according to you. It was nice to drop nuclear bombs on Japanese civilians when you where the only that had them. Like the weasels they are , they never attacked or invaded a country that have nuclear weapons.
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Cope some more, while you are at it.
 
viper13 said:
Sure, terrorism, just like the US has done for the last 50 years as well. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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Wrong.

Terrorist - Targets and attacks civilians and civilian infrastructure.
Freedom Fighter - Targets and attacks military personnel and military infrastructure

Now tell me where the US military has targeted civilians?
 
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