Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 8

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Blu82 said:
I know of an instance using the USN dive table.
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Since most recreation dive tables and most dive computers are based off the research that went into the USN dive tables I am sure there are many dives based on the USN tables...
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s0lar said:
Now Sharrup! This is pointless dumpster fire thread.
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Serious question though, given that the war is now a right proper quagmire with both sides slogging it out in a struggle of attrition committing atrocities of opportunity or accident.... what has actually changed since middle last year?

As far as I can tell it's just a waiting game to see whether the Ukraine foreign support system or Russian economy falls over and both have been remarkably resilient.
 
Major Boredom said:
Since most recreation dive tables and most dive computers are based off the research that went into the USN dive tables I am sure there are many dives based on the USN tables...
As broadly written in the above
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DO really have to go and dig the PADI / NAUI / SSI dive tables and compare them to the official USN one. The recreational tables are signifcantly more conservative ie. 5 minutes at a 130 feet vs 5 minutes at 190 feet.
 
Major Boredom said:
Since most recreation dive tables and most dive computers are based off the research that went into the USN dive tables I am sure there are many dives based on the USN tables...
As broadly written in the above
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The USN dive table shows that you can have a bottom time of 20 minutes at 190 feet with decompression stops lengthening the ascent to 35 minutes. On air.
 
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rambo919 said:
Serious question though, given that the war is now a right proper quagmire with both sides slogging it out in a struggle of attrition committing atrocities of opportunity or accident.... what has actually changed since middle last year?

As far as I can tell it's just a waiting game to see whether the Ukraine foreign support system or Russian economy falls over and both have been remarkably resilient.
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Yeah since Ukraine took Kherson it's been stalemate, pretty much... Russia is taking more losses but they also have more men, so it doesn't really help much.
 
tetrasect said:
Yeah since Ukraine took Kherson it's been stalemate, pretty much... Russia taking more losses but they also have more men, so it doesn't really help much.
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It has been impressive how bad the losses have been.

Maybe they are doing a purge undercover of war maybe it's just general incompetence. Either way it's desperate and irrational.

They genuinely seem to have been surprised by the foreign aid keeping resistance this high and now have no choice but to keep at it. The US it has been leaked is predicting a war with China by 2025.... still looks like a cold war slowly going hot.... how it actually progresses is anyone's guess since the western currencies have taken bad hits but still are standing.

That said though forgot who said it but keep watching the markets, as soon as China starts selling foreign assets you know its changing to a war footing and this little contained circus becomes a giant nightmare.

It's funny how people keep saying the same people that said Russia wont invade are now "simps for Russia".... when all that actually happened was Russia changing the rules of the game signalling a shift into the the uni-polar era. As I said from the beginning, the old world is dead and not coming back.... this is just the start of a new post-UN normal.
 
rambo919 said:
It has been impressive how bad the losses have been.

Maybe they are doing a purge undercover of war maybe it's just general incompetence. Either way it's desperate and irrational.

They genuinely seem to have been surprised by the foreign aid keeping resistance this high and now have no choice but to keep at it. The US it has been leaked is predicting a war with China by 2025.... still looks like a cold war slowly going hot.... how it actually progresses is anyone's guess since the western currencies have taken bad hits but still are standing.

That said though forgot who said it but keep watching the markets, as soon as China starts selling foreign assets you know its changing to a war footing and this little contained circus becomes a giant nightmare.
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That would be a huge mistake on China's part. Seriously doubt they will do such a thing once they see Russia on it's knees next year.

rambo919 said:
It's funny how people keep saying the same people that said Russia wont invade are now "simps for Russia".... when all that actually happened was Russia changing the rules of the game signalling a shift into the the uni-polar era. As I said from the beginning, the old world is dead and not coming back.... this is just the start of a new post-UN normal.
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Yeah no there is no "new normal". It's just a criminal dictatorship that invaded another country and is being dealt with, just like China will be dealt with if they try something like this.

The civilized world will prevail. We go forwards, not backwards.
 
tetrasect said:
That would be a huge mistake on China's part. Seriously doubt they will do such a thing once they see Russia on it's knees next year.
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Unless this is merely a first phase of a bigger plan where Russia is the spearpoint. Russia has been drawing a lot of the most dangerous but often most unstable nations into it's sphere of influence. China having a demographic meltdown atm where within 50-100 years it's population will halve... it is at it's strongest right now and if it plans to wage any wars it HAS to do it now..... making it highly likely that it will.

tetrasect said:
Yeah no there is no "new normal". It's just a criminal dictatorship that invaded another country and is being dealt with, just like China will be dealt with if they try something like this.

The civilized world will prevail. We go forwards, not backwards.
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Too many things have changed in too short an amount of time for me to believe yet. There is no going back to how the world was pre-2016 that I can see, it's all downhill from here.
 
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