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Kieppie said:
So to summarise : People should see the suppressed footage, it wasn't an insurrection, but it was nonetheless a bad event.

Pretty much what was said from the start. Also water is wet.
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Dude minimise it as much as you like it doesn't change the fact that the entire congress was evacuated to safety and it wasn't because of how you're trying to frame it.
 
Go Uncle Joe. Screw the greenies who want to take us into the dark ages of energy poverty. The SA experience might be replicated in developed countries without sufficient baseload capacity - and that's not coming from solar or wind.

President Joe Biden’s allies in the climate movement are bracing for their biggest setback from his administration as he moves closer to approving an Alaskan oil project that would pump as much carbon into the atmosphere as 60 coal-burning power plants.


The administration is expected to approve ConocoPhillips’ plans to build its proposed Willow project on federal land in the Arctic tundra, according to three people at environmental groups who have talked to the White House and Interior Department in recent days about it. But there is no indication yet that Biden himself has signed off on it, and the administration appears to be still trying to decide how big the project would be, these people said.


The White House insisted Friday and Saturday that the administration has made “no final decisions” about the project. But administration officials have touted the importance of oil production in recent months, and people outside the administration said they had been expecting the approval to be announced this past Friday.
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Biden pledged to halt new oil and gas development on federal land during his 2020 campaign, and he and Democrats in Congress passed landmark climate legislation last summer aimed at weaning huge swaths of the economy off of fossil fuels. But the surge in oil prices after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine forced the administration into an awkward embrace of the oil industry, as Biden countered Republican accusations that his policies were to blame for the skyrocketing price at the gas pump that was stoking inflation.

Approving Willow would be just the latest shift by Biden toward the political center as he moves toward a potential reelection bid. He similarly dismayed liberals last week by saying he would not veto a GOP-led repeal of changes to D.C.’s criminal code.
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Biden expected to OK Alaska oil project — a blow to his green base

The expected approval of the massive Willow oil project would be just the latest shift by Biden toward the political center before a potential reelection bid.
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The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Screw the greenies who want to take us into the dark ages of energy poverty. The SA experience might be replicated in developed countries without sufficient baseload capacity - and that's not coming from solar or wind.
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That's quite ironic seeing as Eskom refuses to invest in renewable energy and is instead bankrupting the country by spending billions on burning non-renewable diesel, while investing in solar and wind would have prevented load-shedding and set SA up to export clean electricity to other African countries...
 
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quovadis said:
Dude minimise it as much as you like it doesn't change the fact that the entire congress was evacuated to safety and it wasn't because of how you're trying to frame it.
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Not minimising anything. Just calling a spade a spade. It still wasn't a insurrection, nor was it as bad as initially claimed.

I do find the attack on the press and the release of factual information quite ironic. Narratives breaking are always problematic especially when do much is built up around it.
 
tetrasect said:
That's quite ironic seeing as Eskom refuses to invest in renewable energy and is instead bankrupting the country by spending billions on burning non-renewable diesel, while investing in solar and wind would have prevented load-shedding and set SA up to export clean electricity to other African countries...
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No that would not have prevented load-shedding. Investment implies money, which Eskom doesn't have enough of just to do basic maintenance, never mind proper capacity expansion.
In what la-la world do you live where it would have solved our problems AND be able to export as well? o_O

Cutting some of the red tape and allowing more IPP would help a bit. In this regard the failure of Eskom is actually a blessing in disguise seeing the surge in interest.
Way too expensive for the vast majority though.
 
Kieppie said:
Not minimising anything. Just calling a spade a spade. It still wasn't a insurrection, nor was it as bad as initially claimed.

I do find the attack on the press and the release of factual information quite ironic. Narratives breaking are always problematic especially when do much is built up around it.
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The fact that it was a riot and the capitol building while during the confirmation of the presidential electoral votes makes it an insurrection. But I'll remind you of that when it happens to our parliament building - I'm sure you'll think its completely peaceful and nothing to worry about.
 
quovadis said:
The fact that it was a riot and the capitol building while during the confirmation of the presidential electoral votes makes it an insurrection. But I'll remind you of that when it happens to our parliament building - I'm sure you'll think its completely peaceful and nothing to worry about.
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Sadly it doesn't.
There are more elements required to meet the definitions, but I'm sure people are keen to change the definitions to suit their needs just like with other already accepted words.
Heck since these days many online dictionaries are online, without easily verifiable changes, it may already have been.

You had a mostly peaceful protest. A subsection of those at the protest became unruly and/or violent. A subsection of those entered the building along with a subsection of the peaceful crowd.
Barring a few individuals there was no planning, there were no weapons, hence there can be no "insurrection".
At the end of the day a sporadically violent riot or disturbance isn't an insurrection no matter how much people try to gaslight.
 
Kieppie said:
Sadly it doesn't.
There are more elements required to meet the definitions, but I'm sure people are keen to change the definitions to suit their needs just like with other already accepted words.
Heck since these days many online dictionaries are online, without easily verifiable changes, it may already have been.

You had a mostly peaceful protest. A subsection of those at the protest became unruly and/or violent. A subsection of those entered the building along with a subsection of the peaceful crowd.
Barring a few individuals there was no planning, there were no weapons, hence there can be no "insurrection".
At the end of the day a sporadically violent riot or disturbance isn't an insurrection no matter how much people try to gaslight.
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Mostly peaceful. Lol. You sound like SA's trade union bosses. Curious - you don't think the Capitol is the most important building in the US from the govt perspective?
 
quovadis said:
Mostly peaceful. Lol. You sound like SA's trade union bosses.
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If you can't work out percentages then you seem to have more in common with the 30%'ers here.

quovadis said:
Curious - you don't think the Capitol is the most important building in the US from the govt perspective?
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If you were living 200 years ago perhaps...
Care to try and figure this out yourself? It's not hard and I already gave you the answer a long time ago.
 
Kieppie said:
If you can't work out percentages then you seem to have more in common with the 30%'ers here.
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Yeah I matriculated before all of that nonsense. Not so sure about you.
Kieppie said:
If you were living 200 years ago perhaps...
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Lol. Ok lets try again. What building is the most important in the US from a US govt perspective?
 
quovadis said:
Yeah I matriculated before all of that nonsense. Not so sure about you.
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Love the attempts at punching up :P
So what's your excuse then? Atrophy?

quovadis said:
Lol. Ok lets try again. What building is the most important in the US from a US govt perspective?
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Do buildings run the country or do people? Can people squatting in building run a country?
See it's easy.
 
Kieppie said:
Why answer a question that is irrelevant? Think a bit further than your nose please.
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Of course it's relevant. Interesting that you're unwilling to answer? So I'll ask one more time - What building is the most important in the US from a US govt perspective?
 
quovadis said:
Of course it's relevant. Interesting that you're unwilling to answer? So I'll ask one more time - What building is the most important in the US from a US govt perspective?
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How are you unable to understand the very basic premise that the government is the people?
The building. no matter which, is irrelevant. The capitol could be nuked tomorrow and the government will go on.

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Lol, Fox producer for Tucker referring to his audience as “dumb” “cousin-****ing” “terrorists.”

Indeed, on Nov. 22, Trump’s campaign issued a statement, attributed to Giuliani and fellow campaign attorney Jenna Ellis, declaring that Powell was “practicing law on her own” and was “not a member” of Trump’s legal team.
Despite his behind-the-scenes lobbying, Shah counseled a middle course in dealing with her claims on air. On the day after Carlson publicly challenged Powell, Shah and a Carlson producer weighed whether Carlson should devote time in his next show to Powell’s claim that she had an affidavit that would link Dominion to Venezuela.
“Might wanna address this, but this stuff is so f------ insane. Vote rigging to the tune of millions? C’mon,” Shah wrote.
Carlson’s producer, Alex Pfeiffer, responded: “It is so insane but our viewers believe it so addressing again how her stupid Venezuela affidavit isn’t proof might insult them.”
Shah advised that Carlson should mention the affidavit noting it was “not new info, not proof” but then quickly “pivot to being deferential.”
Pfeiffer, who has since left the network, answered that the delicate dance was “surreal.”
“Like negotiating with terrorists,” he added, “but especially dumb ones. Cousin f----- types not saudi royalty.”
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