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Kieppie said:
Nope, people on the left are also calling out the BS. Don't confuse uniparty sentiments as representing all people.


Your example wasn't an extreme example. It wasn't even something controversial, but it was portrayed as such. Kinda the whole point.
The amount of deflection during the summer of love pales in comparison to that of Jan 6.

1 day vs numerous.
1 location vs nationwide.
Numerous people killed vs 1 protester.
Billions in damage vs hardly any.

The two events were not nearly comparable in scope, yet one received disproportionate coverage and condemnation (without all the facts being presented).

However it isn't just limited to these two extremes
If standards were applied equally, no matter the perceived ideology, then people would not be this blackpilled.
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Please hop on a plane and go to the US. You'll find out very quickly that what you're so polarised about is very much the fringe or extremes for which the average american either doesn't know about, or if they do, don't terribly care about. And you're right - they are disproportionate - but you're minimising one because of what you believe is part of your "team" when they're both bad for very different reasons and those on either side will freely admit that.
 
quovadis said:
Please hop on a plane and go to the US. You'll find out very quickly that what you're so polarised about is very much the fringe or extremes for which the average american either doesn't know about, or if they do, don't terribly care about. And you're right - they are disproportionate - but you're minimising one because of what you believe is part of your "team" when they're both bad for very different reasons and those on either side will freely admit that.
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The average American believes what they hear/see/read (or even worse by word of mouth) on their respective main news outlets, much like anywhere else in the world. Which is why I'm so vehemently opposed to the partisan lies spread via news.
It isn't even just the news outlets themselves, but you have the press secretary regularly outright lying to the public. So unless someone happens to read an article debunking this then that is what they will believe.
This eventually culminates in an extremely warped reality that is extremely difficult if not impossible to fix.

As for the J6 when I first saw it I cuckled, because I knew there was no way it would accomplish anything except for being used as fodder against them in future as well as obfuscating the problems the previous years regarding the riots and Covid that have barely been addressed. Never did I consider the event as a positive one mind you, but I immediately saw the extremism in the reporting. Especially since I followed some of those that attended the rally as well as knowing their reasons for going.
Calling it an insurrection was a mistake and this shaped the discourse. Calling it a "tourist event" is merely using another extreme to pull the narrative back towards the middle where it belongs. It is very much like the "mostly peaceful" coverage we had previously. Sure there was peaceful elements, but we critiqued the violence. People didn't go around saying this is all Democrat voters and that it was planned by Biden, despite people like Kamala and her bailing out of protesters. This IS what many were saying w.r.t. J6 though.

The fact that people are so against news footage and information coming out highlights how people want to cling to their own view of the event.
If the records aren't corrected to more accurately reflect what happened on that day then it will be forever be incorrectly cemented into the zeitgeist. The public can only pay attention to an event for so long before moving on to the next.
 
Kieppie said:
The average American believes what they hear/see/read (or even worse by word of mouth) on their respective main news outlets, much like anywhere else in the world. Which is why I'm so vehemently opposed to the partisan lies spread via news.
It isn't even just the news outlets themselves, but you have the press secretary regularly outright lying to the public. So unless someone happens to read an article debunking this then that is what they will believe.
This eventually culminates in an extremely warped reality that is extremely difficult if not impossible to fix.

As for the J6 when I first saw it I cuckled, because I knew there was no way it would accomplish anything except for being used as fodder against them in future as well as obfuscating the problems the previous years regarding the riots and Covid that have barely been addressed. Never did I consider the event as a positive one mind you, but I immediately saw the extremism in the reporting. Especially since I followed some of those that attended the rally as well as knowing their reasons for going.
Calling it an insurrection was a mistake and this shaped the discourse. Calling it a "tourist event" is merely using another extreme to pull the narrative back towards the middle where it belongs. It is very much like the "mostly peaceful" coverage we had previously. Sure there was peaceful elements, but we critiqued the violence. People didn't go around saying this is all Democrat voters and that it was planned by Biden, despite people like Kamala and her bailing out of protesters. This IS what many were saying w.r.t. J6 though.

The fact that people are so against news footage and information coming out highlights how people want to cling to their own view of the event.
If the records aren't corrected to more accurately reflect what happened on that day then it will be forever be incorrectly cemented into the zeitgeist. The public can only pay attention to an event for so long before moving on to the next.
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How long have you lived or resided in the states for?
 
quovadis said:
How long have you lived or resided in the states for?
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That's a strawman and a cheap cop-out to what I wrote.

You yourself are limited by the interactions in the area you live. Whether I get my interaction from friends/family that live there or via locals from various states and of various political leanings talking about their live experiences it boils down to the same thing.
It's also backed up by studies. It doesn't mean people in the streets or neighbours are yelling at each other due to political differences. There is a big difference between thoughts and actions, irrespective of which country you live in.
 
Kieppie said:
That's a strawman and a cheap cop-out to what I wrote.

You yourself are limited by the interactions in the area you live. Whether I get my interaction from friends/family that live there or via locals from various states and of various political leanings talking about their live experiences it boils down to the same thing.
It's also backed up by studies. It doesn't mean people in the streets or neighbours are yelling at each other due to political differences. There is a big difference between thoughts and actions, irrespective of which country you live in.
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Wtf are you on about. It's obviously important to understand the basis for how you've established your understanding based on where you've resided? Sheesh.
 
quovadis said:
Wtf are you on about. It's obviously important to understand the basis for how you've established your understanding based on where you've resided? Sheesh.
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It's not. You're welcome to regale us with your anecdotal experience in where you live. You're stuck looking at the micro not macro
 
quovadis said:
It's not important? :ROFL:
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It's limited. It depends on how much you actually interact with various people. Only interaction within a set group can leave you uninformed.

Your experience remains a single data point hence anecdotal.
 
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quovadis said:
Lol so you're arguing that it's the dems fault for not rolling back everything the previous administration passed? :X3:
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He's signed more eo's than trumps had mcdonalds over last 2 years doing exactly that... your tds is showing :laugh:
 
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