Russian jet collides with US drone in international airspace over Black Sea, official says

Grant said:
Probably unable to fly without the fix of vodka
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NarrowBandFtw said:
no it doesn't, cope some more


that's your assumption, there's not a single millisecond of footage showing the drone change course, attitude, altitude, wing level upon "impact" you'd probably believe the jet hit the satellite uplink first and that explains it ... SURE :ROFL: :laugh: :ROFL: :laugh:


another assumption, if someone is willing to tamper with "evidence" to edit out anything at the actual moment of "impact", what makes you think they won't edit it some more to show damage?

note how the drone is flying perfectly fine with this apparent damage ... no sir, not sus at all :ROFL:
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So the damaged propeller blade, that wasn't damaged the second before the Russian jet approaches and miraculously is damaged after the jet leaves?

How did that happen?
 
buka001 said:
So the damaged propeller blade, that wasn't damaged the second before the Russian jet approaches and miraculously is damaged after the jet leaves?

How did that happen?
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your turn, the lack of ANY change to the drone's flight path before, during or after impact ... how did that happen?
 
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your turn, the lack of ANY change to the drone's flight path before, during or after impact ... how did that happen?
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Your brain is melted.

So you agree that the drone crashed. Russia has agreed that the drone crashed.

But how it crashed is a mystery and Russia did not do it?

The footage cuts out. But the loss of one blade of the propeller will lead to a degradation in speed. What we can't see is whether one of the vertical stabilisers are damaged. Which will also affect its ability to fly.
 
zulucat said:
Biden won't do anything about this. Senile old toppie
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I don’t think USA actually wants to. The general they interviewed even said it was a silly thing to do and called it irresponsible and hinted that the pilots should be scolded.

It’s the media (regrettably even the ones I like) who seem intent on pushing this “will it be a Nuclear war” and “will it start a war..”

But Neither side seems to be talking that way. Weird
 
What they sowed: how the American UAV "Reaper" ended up at the bottom of the Black Sea
The UAV flight took place with transponders turned off - special transceiver devices that provide ground services with information about the coordinates, altitude, speed and a number of other parameters of the aircraft.

According to the Russian military department, the UAV violated the borders of the area of the temporary regime for the use of airspace, established for the purpose of conducting a special military operation. Information about it was communicated to all users of international airspace and published in accordance with international standards.
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According to the US military, the Russian fighter flew alongside the MQ-9 for 30-40 minutes before it "collided with the drone", after which it lost its ability to fly, and the US was forced to send it into the waters of the Black Sea.
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30-40 minutes equals zero response to clear warnings to leave an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ). A response to clear warnings is to be politely escorted out... like the Tu-95 bombers near Alaska.
“NORAD tracks and positively identifies foreign military aircraft that enter the ADIZ,” it said, adding that it “routinely monitors foreign aircraft movements and as necessary, escorts them from the ADIZ.”
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"International airspace" is a clear red herring designed to provoke confusion with the ADIZ that was communicated clearly. For the slow, a definition of ADIZ:
An air defense identification zone (ADIZ) is the airspace of a country plus an additional wider area over land and water in which a country tries to identify, locate, and control any civil aircraft in the interest of national security.[1] They are declared unilaterally[2] and may extend beyond a country's territory to give the country more time to respond to possibly hostile aircraft.[3] The concept of an ADIZ is not defined in any international treaty and is not recognized by any international body.
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hexagon said:
What they sowed: how the American UAV "Reaper" ended up at the bottom of the Black Sea



30-40 minutes equals zero response to clear warnings to leave an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ). A response to clear warnings is to be politely escorted out... like the Tu-95 bombers near Alaska.


"International airspace" is a clear red herring designed to provoke confusion with the ADIZ that was communicated clearly. For the slow, a definition of ADIZ:
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About to read that article and saw it was going to a .ru domain - nope! Lol
Their propaganda machine is waay too active.
 
buka001 said:
Russia would have been posting radar data showing that the drone was inside their airspace yesterday already.
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They have. It was in their air defense identification zone.
 
zulucat said:
Biden won't do anything about this. Senile old toppie
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How many more billions can he possibly send to Ukraine? The entire US military budget? They are doing everything they can.
 
neoprema said:
I don’t think USA actually wants to. The general they interviewed even said it was a silly thing to do and called it irresponsible and hinted that the pilots should be scolded.

It’s the media (regrettably even the ones I like) who seem intent on pushing this “will it be a Nuclear war” and “will it start a war..”

But Neither side seems to be talking that way. Weird
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Sensationalism sells.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
they state it crossed into territory that's been communicated from the outset as off-limits and too close to their military installations
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You can't just arbitrarily claim territory as being yours when it isn't.

NarrowBandFtw said:
wrong, Russia claims Crimea and Russia defined up front where it draws the line in the skies given that it is war time
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Crimea is legally Ukraine, Russia has unlawfully annexed it, that's even accepted by the UN, Russia has no legal right to the territory or international waters/airspace that border Crimea.
 
buka001 said:
Your brain is melted.
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not half as much as yours

buka001 said:
So you agree that the drone crashed. Russia has agreed that the drone crashed.

But how it crashed is a mystery and Russia did not do it?

The footage cuts out. But the loss of one blade of the propeller will lead to a degradation in speed. What we can't see is whether one of the vertical stabilisers are damaged. Which will also affect its ability to fly.
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what the footage does not show is more important than what it shows, you are incapable of accepting that it seems
 
Dave said:
You can't just arbitrarily claim territory as being yours when it isn't.



Crimea is legally Ukraine, Russia has unlawfully annexed it, that's even accepted by the UN, Russia has no legal right to the territory or international waters/airspace that border Crimea.
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But like Russia said so, and apparently followed the processes.

I think I'm going to claim all the international airspace in the world as a temporary regime that disallows anyone to fly through it without paying me $2 because its MINE!
 
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