Death penalty imposed as Uganda passes law making it a crime to identify as LGBTQ

rambo919 said:
Hey, I really dislike cheating. I would be the one handing the loaded guns to angry spouses.
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I think you misunderstand the term adultery.

It's not just those having a bit on the side - scripture states that everyone who remarries while their 'spouse' is still alive is an adulterer.

The prohibition of adultery is one of the 10 commandments.

The prohibition of homosexuality is not.
 
daveza said:
I think you misunderstand the term adultery.

It's not just those having a bit on the side - everyone who remarries while their 'spouse' is still alive is an adulterer.
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This is where the approval of the spouse comes in with the exception of divorce which implies direct approval of remarriage. No one can honestly expect anyone to hold anyone else to "I don't want you but I will make sure no one else has you".

Divorce is actually a highly complicated thing where few people agree on regarding the details, a common explanation is the action of remarriage is adultery but the actual marriage is not.... but it also kills the marriage so it is a parting death..... I am still deciding on that one.

daveza said:
The prohibition of adultery is one of the 10 commandments.

The prohibition of homosexuality is not.
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There are many laws in the books of law carrying the death penalty that are not directly stated in the base 10.
 
daveza said:
In the light of biblical teachings, please explain.
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Hypocrisy potentially driven by adulterous politicians covering themselves.

If a lot of politicians were gay... they would not criminalize it.
 
WizardOfAges said:
It's fascinating how obsessed people are with what consenting adults do in their private bedrooms... Some people think more about gay people than gay people even do
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There's still the crazy crowd openly parading perversion rather than their sexuality which I'm pretty much against. Doesn't matter if it's straight, gay, trans or whatever but most bisexual and gay people I know are pretty embarrassed at the state of the LBGT community thanks to the bad seeds. Some even started disassociate themselves from the mainstream representation. I wonder what @rambo919 will make of them...
 
WizardOfAges said:
It's fascinating how obsessed people are with what consenting adults do in their private bedrooms... Some people think more about gay people than gay people even do
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Same goes for those who insist that other people know, recognise and tolerate what they choose to do with their own genitals.
 
rambo919 said:
This is where the approval of the spouse comes in with the exception of divorce which implies direct approval of remarriage. No one can honestly expect anyone to hold anyone else to "I don't want you but I will make sure no one else has you".
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Adultery is not something that can be ' agreed upon' by spouses ( if that is what you are saying ) - it is , according to scripture, an abomination for which ones life should be forfeit.

As for all the other biblical infringements for which death is the penalty, yes there are many of them.

But we don't kill people who work on a Saturday, we don't kill naughty children, and we certainly don't kill those who remarry.

But yeah, we must kill gays because the bible says so.
 
WizardOfAges said:
They do. The good ol daysTM

They yearn to return to a time where they were "superior" to other people.
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Thing is the previous regime was far superior in one respect, saying it like they saw it..

You cannot disagree that they, right or wrong, unashamedly lived out their beliefs, monsters on the outside where everyone can see and judge whatever they shouted from the pulpit.

So unlike the ANC that tries to hide their inner demons under a blanket of respectability. They don't even possess the ability to be honest with themselves and the world. Carpet sweepers par excellance..

Maybe we are longing for the good in the good old days, not the bad. What is there in current government to long for? Mandela? Since then it was all downhill, a front, hiding their communism, racism and tribalism, much like they're still trying to hide their distain for whites, our constitution, democracy and the law.

It was ultimately the NPs honesty that made them look inward and recognize their dark side, negotiating a peaceful transition where they handed the country over to the pretenders.

Good luck with the ANC doing a reversal or even recognizing their evil when they clearly actually believe the drivel that they spew. The inmates have taken control of the Asylum..
 
Moosedrool said:
There's still the crazy crowd openly parading perversion rather than their sexuality which I'm pretty much against. Doesn't matter if it's straight, gay, trans or whatever but most bisexual and gay people I know are pretty embarrassed at the state of the LBGT community thanks to the bad seeds. Some even started disassociate themselves from the mainstream representation. I wonder what @rambo919 will make of them...
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No different from neocons.
 
konfab said:
Quote the whole thing, and quote the actual text, not the heretical NIV.


"On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
"There is none other commandment greater than these."

They override everything.
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Plenty of Christian people quote Leviticus to justify hating on gays, while I admire and support your interpretation, it's by no means universal.
 
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daveza said:
Adultery is not something that can be ' agreed upon' by spouses ( if that is what you are saying ) - it is , according to scripture, an abomination for which ones life should be forfeit.
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If they agree on divorce they agree that both can remarry. If the act of remarriage is adultery they are agreeing on it. You cannot logically view it any other way.

daveza said:
As for all the other biblical infringements for which death is the penalty, yes there are many of them.

But we don't kill people who work on a Saturday, we don't kill naughty children, and we certainly don't kill those who remarry.

But yeah, we must kill gays because the bible says so.
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Such is the interpretation by desperate people that don't read their whole bible.

The incident of the woman being dragged before Jesus for adultery proves that the religious laws demanding death for adultery failed in their execution in upholding their attempt and are thus obsolete. A large part of the ministry of Jesus was proving how the old laws needed to be replaced or reinterpreted in some way because the meaning behind them are more important to their letter.

Yes He also said the law would never change but this was about preserving the meaning not the letter and only has direct relevance to the Laws of God (10 Commandments) not the Laws of Moses.

Uganda might be able to support their law biblically BUT they cannot honestly claim it is not a secular law.
 
Cray said:
Plenty of Christin people quote Leviticus to justify hating on gays, while I admire and support your interpretation, it's by no means universal.
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If you pay attention, it in no way invalidates Leviticus.
 
Cray said:
So when the bible says the punishment for being gay is the death penalty, is that not a religious law?
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Why don't we see 1000s of threads on the Bible's stance on adultery? That is actually one of the ten commandments, while being gay is not. But no Christian ever brings that up in threads as if they're policing God's laws on earth..

You'd think God was more concerned with his real, instructed, religious laws being kept than something from the old testament? Which let me remind you also says it's OK to keep slaves as long as you don't treat them poorly. If we're to revert to old testament laws & I promise to be fair I'm ordering a Zimbabwean I hear they're hard workers..
 
daveza said:
You really need to make your posts less vague.

Are you saying adultery is just a secular legal criminal offense and not a sin?
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Adultery is clearly listed as a sin.
A criminal offense is not the same thing as a sin.

Governments can make anything they like a criminal offense or not, but have absolutely no authority to decide what is a sin. Most reasoning behind any government decisions are stupid post hog rationalization for some nonsense. Your example is no different.
 
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