Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 8

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rambo919 said:
Because children lie when their elders expect them to lie. It's hardly the most difficult kind of coercion.
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You're speculating. There is enough evidence for the kidnapping of children by Russia that actual jurists have charged Putin. Secondly children may lie, but adults lie too. Russians lie as well. If Ukrainians lie, so can the Russians. Ukrainian children were taken to Russia though. That's not a lie.

rambo919 said:
You lot have even said the following "people under Russian occupation agree with Russians because of it".... why would the same not be true for Ukraine even more so with children?


Nonsense, your bar for evidence is merely exceptionally low. Give actual proper evidence and it will be considered. All you ever give is tabloid reporting with no granularity or long opinion pieces that weigh heavily on emotionalism... all you ever give is propaganda.
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What do you mean bar for evidence is low. It's acceptable for the ICC. What are your credentials?

rambo919 said:
Both sides have a history of faking atrocities of the other side.... and doing atrocities themselves.
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I'm sorry but only ONE SIDE invaded the other side. Only one side (Russia) is murdering the civilians of the other side (Ukraine). Russians in Russia are not attacked.

rambo919 said:
If Ukraine never engaged in obvious deception to bolster foreign support I would believe their claims easier, now it's merely a case of he said she said a lot of the time because the same bombings have literally been blamed on both sides at the same time for example.
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Russians have always lied. We in Europe have always known them to lie. It's the Russian way. You are just a guy in SA who simply does not know Russians.
 
Mirai said:
You're speculating. There is enough evidence for the kidnapping of children by Russia that actual jurists have charged Putin. Secondly children may lie, but adults lie too. Russians lie as well. If Ukrainians lie, so can the Russians. Ukrainian children were taken to Russia though. That's not a lie.
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Everyone is speculating.... proven liars however trotting out potentially coached children are never high on my list of reliable eyewitnesses.

Mirai said:
What do you mean bar for evidence is low. It's acceptable for the ICC. What are your credentials?
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They issued an arrest warrant as an attempt to force Russia to terms.... even if they are completely honest in their intentions no hearing has been done.

Mirai said:
I'm sorry but only ONE SIDE invaded the other side. Only one side (Russia) is murdering the civilians of the other side (Ukraine). Russians in Russia are not attacked.
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Be as sorry as you like, physical invasion is still not the most important aspect of this conflict it's just the most pressing one.

Mirai said:
Russians have always lied. We in Europe have always known them to lie. It's the Russian way. You are just a guy in SA who simply does not know Russians.
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Of course they have always lied..... so have the Ukrainians. You don't get to be called the most corrupt country in Europe for your honesty.
 
Dave said:
You mean the most corrupt country in Europe after Russia?

Russia has held that crown for years.
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right next to each other in the ranking so.... not exactly helping the ukraine cause....
 
rambo919 said:
you really need to stop pretending that makes any kind of difference except for meaningless semantics.
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Not semantics, it's showing you were telling a lie when you said this:
rambo919 said:
You don't get to be called the most corrupt country in Europe for your honesty.
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The pressure on Raiffeisen in connection with its business in the Russian Federation is being increased by the European Central Bank, Reuters reports. The ECB does not require the Austrian bank to immediately exit the Russian market, but insists on creating a plan for such an exit and risk management


https://twitter.com/x/status/1639277792406781952
 
Dave said:
The Gibberish - English dictionary doesn't appear to exist. Could someone translate this please.
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