Mass Israel protests after Netanyahu fires defence minister

The irony here is it can at worst potentially become a "threat to democracy".... by making the the appointment of judges democratic.
 
rambo919 said:
If the ruling party can appoint judges and overrule judgements..... how is that not democratic?
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But then there's no separation of powers between elected people and the judiciary when the elected can just remove inconvenient judges in favour of toadies who will do their bidding and shield them from prosecution.
 
R13... said:
But then there's no separation of powers between elected people and the judiciary when the elected can just remove inconvenient judges in favour of toadies who will do their bidding and shield them from prosecution.
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It seems Israel doesn't have a written constitution so anything goes really..
 
R13... said:
But then there's no separation of powers between elected people and the judiciary when the elected can just remove inconvenient judges in favour of toadies who will do their bidding and shield them from prosecution.
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Separation of powers is actually an inherently undemocratic notion.

The big problem here is no system is perfect and the courts in Israel have become an independent political force rather than staying objective. These reforms are an attempt to reign in these aspirations..... though personally I think Israel has slidden so far into disunity it's not going to survive for long without either civil war or dictatorship.
 
rambo919 said:
Separation of powers is actually an inherently undemocratic notion.

The big problem here is no system is perfect and the courts in Israel have become an independent political force rather than staying objective. These reforms are an attempt to reign in these aspirations..... though personally I think Israel has slidden so far into disunity it's not going to survive for long without either civil war or dictatorship.
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Well, courts enforce laws dreamed up by politicians. And should be independent but only to the extent that they interpret laws. If they start making up their own laws then they need to be reigned in. Is that what is happen in Israel.

You don't see anything wrong with a person facing corruption charges wanting to amend laws so he can have control on who may sit over his own prosecution? And prevent his own removal if he's deemed unfit for office?
 
R13... said:
Well, courts enforce laws dreamed up by politicians. And should be independent but only to the extent that they interpret laws. If they start making up their own laws then they need to be reigned in. Is that what is happen in Israel.

You don't see anything wrong with a person facing corruption charges wanting to amend laws so he can have control on who may sit over his own prosecution? And prevent his own removal if he's deemed unfit for office?
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I don't think the corruption charges are anything but this political force applying pressure. And I see him responding with pressure in return.

It's all just politics with pretensions of moral superiority. Cause and effect downward spiral. If they did not start throwing their weight around these reforms would never have been thought of.

This is merely late stage Democratic Socialism the same as Murica and SA, it's all downhill from here, the delusion is that anyone can repair the damage done to something so far gone. The only remedy is total systems replacement but that usually takes generations to complete and always is so traumatic most people cannot even make themselves accept the need until they are forced to.
 
Is this why the protests in Israel haven't seen much traction outside of Israel?

Doesn't fit the narrative?

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buka001 said:
Is this why the protests in Israel haven't seen much traction outside of Israel?

Doesn't fit the narrative?

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They are also white.
Rietie and Rambo are quick to condemn the likes of Zuma / ANC etc.
Corrupt white right wing politicians always get massive "benefit of doubt" and a multitude of reasons as to why any criminal charges are always politically motivated.
Not so white politicians are immediately assumed guilty.
 
Among the biggest sleights of hand and insults in the last century.
Equating the cancer that is Zionism with the faith Judaism.
 
Grant said:
They are also white.
Rietie and Rambo are quick to condemn the likes of Zuma / ANC etc.
Corrupt white right wing politicians always get massive "benefit of doubt" and a multitude of reasons as to why any criminal charges are always politically motivated.
Not so white politicians are immediately assumed guilty.
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WTF does this have to do with their melanin counts? It's about the character of their accusers.
 
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