Protecting keyless entry cars from thieves - advice from insurance companies

[FiestaST]

I didn't i never watched again when they aired the episode of the briefcase that finds dead people. But i'm sure there are many many other well-researched articles on stealing vehicles through FOB replays, like here: https://www.pcmag.com/news/is-your-car-key-fob-vulnerable-to-this-simple-replay-attack

The linky if you do decide to watch/view.

 

[Neuk_]

Ok dumbest comment of the year goes to: "Where possible, the keyless entry should be permanently deactivated."

That firstly, negates a good R20k upgrade you took on your car unless it was factory fitted (which is becoming more popular) and then also defeats - convenience opening, diesel-pre-priming in very cold weather, automatic trunk/boot opening or foot-wave opening etc and probably vehicle profiles - so when someone else uses the other key the car won't know to set their preferences on the mirrors, seats, lighting, media etc.

Secondly, we want to make progress into the future, not go back to 1996.

The faraday bag is ok but also just a pain.

What we need is for vehicle manufacturers to simply make it harder to steal the car - but the problem is this is very specific to certain markets i think? They could switch to having an additional factor of auth whereby the key does its thing but the doors will not unlock nor engine start if your paired iPhone or Apple Watch are not also within proximity of the car for example...(and with Apple Watch you can also check if its being worn and authenticated not just lying in a bag)

There's many ways to solve this but i don't know if it will get the focus it needs from vehicle manufacturers because they prob just don't see it as a major problem?

My BIL says that most new 'high end' Toyota's have a feature that disables the keyless entry somehow so if criminals try the remote boost technique the car won't open nor start but I am not sure of the details or how it exactly works.

 

[neoprema]

The linky if you do decide to watch/view.

Thank you
But did they find the dead person with the FOB??!?

 

[Lupus]

How?

By standing there till the damn thing is locked

 

[LCBXX]

Ford and Toyota have a lot to answer for.

 

[Ernieh65]

Sounds unlikely, looks like technology fear porn which this crowd loves

 

[R13...]

By standing there till the damn thing is locked

It unlocks when you approach and the crims boost the signal when you walk away.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Sounds unlikely, looks like technology fear porn which this crowd loves

the Kia BoyZ beg to differ.

 

[NR7]

The faraday bag is ok but also just a pain.

They could switch to having an additional factor of auth whereby the key does its thing but the doors will not unlock nor engine start if your paired iPhone or Apple Watch are not also within proximity of the car for example...(and with Apple Watch you can also check if its being worn and authenticated not just lying in a bag)

I'll take my Faraday pouch anyday over being stranded in the middle of nowhere because someone stole my cellphone.

 

[dj_jyno]

I sometimes forget the remote in my vehicle. Push button start vehicles takes some getting used to.

Which is why my key never leaves my pocket. Can't forget the key when it's on your person.

I must say that my Jaguar's keyless entry has very short range (which I prefer). One day I tried opening my door, and the car refused to unlock, even though the key was only about an arm's length away. When using remote locking and unlocking, the key has the same range as every other remote key.

 

[Mike Angelo]

 

[Lupus]

It unlocks when you approach and the crims boost the signal when you walk away.

You can push the button to lock it manually, you don't have to rely on the walking away and shouldn't

 

[Jamster03]

The pouch works. Use the back pocket and a marker to mark the pouch with the car name if you have more than two cars/pouches. This happens in the UK as well.

Keyless car theft: What you need to know

Everything you need to know about protecting your keyless car and preventing theft.

www.carwow.co.uk

 

[Sensorei]

Cars with the keyless smart key are much easier to steal because with some brands you can start the car with no key required. Just a R10K auto locksmith programming machine is required and in 5 minutes it has backed up the immobiliser, made a virtual key, and the car is gone.

Toyotas are the easiest to steal. Even your latest Fortuners, Hilux. BMWs, Mercs, new VW /Audi have the best immobiliser security.

 

[LCBXX]

The pouch works. Use the back pocket and a marker to mark the pouch with the car name if you have more than two cars/pouches. This happens in the UK as well.

Keyless car theft: What you need to know

Everything you need to know about protecting your keyless car and preventing theft.

www.carwow.co.uk

This is BS, TBH. The car manufacturers need to carry the bulk of the liability, not the client having to buy some workaround.

 

[wingnut771]

This is BS, TBH. The car manufacturers need to carry the bulk of the liability, not the client having to buy some workaround.

Just don't buy a car with keyless features. Problem solved.

 

[LCBXX]

Just don't buy a car with keyless features. Problem solved.

But the keyless model also has radar cruise control which is not available on the conventional-key model!

 

[eepr0m]

But the keyless model also has radar cruise control which is not available on the conventional-key model!

Or buy a bicycle. Problem solved.

 

[LCBXX]

Or buy a bicycle. Problem solved.

The Pinarello Dogma does not have a key, yes, but it's less practical than a Suzuki Swift for the same money. That said, the keyless Swift doesn't have they same keyless-vulnerability a Fortuner has.

 

[Forza]

This has been happening in the UK for years already. It just that our skelms have picked up on this technology