Europe must resist pressure to become ‘America’s followers,’ says Macron

[rambo919]

It seems De Gaulle resisted the US harder than the French people themselves did.

In many ways he was an odd fellow much like Smuts.... not easy to peg down and intensely hated at home.

 

[Velskoen]

While he had a brilliant mind, Smuts was unpopular with his countrymen because of his conciliatory attitude toward the English. His failure to reprieve Jopie Fourie – a ABW hero executed after his participation in the Boer rebellion of 1914-1915 made him few friends in South Africa.

A very interesting read is "Jan Smuts - wie en wat was hy eintlik" by Dr Paul Grobbelaar. Smuts was not all he was made out to be.

 

[rambo919]

Smuts was not all he was made out to be.

He had by contemporaries been described as not being a bad or unintelligent man but an unwise one.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

He had by contemporaries been described as not being a bad or unintelligent man but an unwise one.

The Boers chose an unwise General against the British, an unwise British General defeated the Germans in Namibia in WW1 and an unwise man made the rank of Field Marshall and was present at the signing of the Japanese surrender?

Methinks you underestimate the founder of the science of Holism who rode with a book of Kant's philosophy as bedtime reading in his saddlebag on campaign in the Boer war and whose nickname was "Slim Jannie".

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

In many ways he was an odd fellow much like Smuts.... not easy to peg down and intensely hated at home.

if De Gaulle was anything like the airport named after him then good riddance to the vile POS!

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Little poodle yaps trying to improve his single digit approval rating.
Does he think the US nukes all over europe are there for his "protection"

Why? France has its own independent nuclear forces:

France is the only member of the European Union to possess independent (non-NATO) nuclear weapons. France was the fourth country to test an independently developed nuclear weapon, doing so in 1960 under the government of Charles de Gaulle. The French military is currently thought to retain a weapons stockpile of around 300 operational (deployed) nuclear warheads, making it the third-largest in the world, speaking in terms of warheads, not megatons.

France and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Vorastra]

if De Gaulle was anything like the airport named after him then good riddance to the vile POS!

 

[Vorastra]

Why? France has its own independent nuclear forces:

France is the only member of the European Union to possess independent (non-NATO) nuclear weapons. France was the fourth country to test an independently developed nuclear weapon, doing so in 1960 under the government of Charles de Gaulle. The French military is currently thought to retain a weapons stockpile of around 300 operational (deployed) nuclear warheads, making it the third-largest in the world, speaking in terms of warheads, not megatons.

France and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Literally the only thing I like about France.
They always try to have their own systems and structure, even if it is half-assed most of the time.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

yup, not sure wtf he's on about, Europe has been USA's bitch for decades already

"becoming America's followers" doesn't fit the picture, maybe relevant for some of North & East Europe irrationally jonesing to cast off the shackles of neutrality and join the US military spending club called NATO

but certainly most of Europe and most definitely France has had that star spangled ball-gag in their mouths for decades

Um, for you too:

France is the only member of the European Union to possess independent (non-NATO) nuclear weapons. France was the fourth country to test an independently developed nuclear weapon, doing so in 1960 under the government of Charles de Gaulle. The French military is currently thought to retain a weapons stockpile of around 300 operational (deployed) nuclear warheads, making it the third-largest in the world, speaking in terms of warheads, not megatons.

France and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Literally the only thing I like about France.
They always try to have their own systems and structure, even if it is half-assed most of the time.

Just like their cars. Awful things.

 

[Polymathic]

In order for the EU to decouple from the US they need the UK to return to the EU and join the Eurozone and they need Russia to play nice and sell their natural gas and oil in Euros.

That said I should point out that a large of part the french economy and government spending is propped by their former African Colonies through the CFA Franc

 

[rambo919]

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The french part of my ancestry both agrees and disagrees with you.

 

[Vorastra]

The french part of my ancestry both agrees and disagrees with you.

I'm going to reply to you with French memes from now on.

 

[rambo919]

I'm going to reply to you with French memes from now on.

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I will say this for them, it's a good thing to eat healthy bread instead of the putty garbage on our shelves.

 

[Mirai]

I will say this for them, it's a good thing to eat healthy bread instead of the putty garbage on our shelves.

That was maybe in the 80s. Now it's the same puffy garbage everywhere.

 

[rambo919]

That was maybe in the 80s. Now it's the same puffy garbage everywhere.

I literally cannot digest the garbage anymore, all I can actually eat is the "health" bread..... because it's actual bread and even then I have to look for the one with the least amount of sugar in it.

 

[Grant]

While he had a brilliant mind, Smuts was unpopular with his countrymen because of his conciliatory attitude toward the English. His failure to reprieve Jopie Fourie – a ABW hero executed after his participation in the Boer rebellion of 1914-1915 made him few friends in South Africa.

A very interesting read is "Jan Smuts - wie en wat was hy eintlik" by Dr Paul Grobbelaar. Smuts was not all he was made out to be.

Interesting documentary:

 

[rvZA]

And so the whole world defeated by communism... how clever these chaps were!

 

[Grant]

And so the whole world defeated by communism... how clever these chaps were!

I believe you have finally lost your mind.
That final frail thread of sanity has finally snapped.

Or are you living in United States 1950

 

[rambo919]

And so the whole world defeated by communism... how clever these chaps were!

Plot twist, Communism was merely the transitory system on the road to Technocracy.