Tshwane MMC for Utilities and Regional Operations cllr Themba Fosi: Pylons don't just fall over

TheChamp said:
But the whole point of sabotage would be to cause chaos, so why would they care of an alarm is raised?

And I think that line about them being stolen at a rate where the municipality cannot keep up is some political spin, even the mayor is not convinced that the municipality was on top of its game, he did allude to the fact that he still needs to see the maintenance schedule and what was done on the pylons. We know at the rate the municipality does it's work you report something and they totally forget about, from potholes to pretty much anything.
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It wasn't sabotage, it was theft.
 
wingnut771 said:
No, they should have stake outs with flir cameras after they replace the struts.
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Or both but if the cameras show a bunch of balaclava clad guys stealing metalwork, and then the camera, to a snoozing control room it won't be too helpful. Catch them and they will be replaced by other thieves; this is SA. The scrap dealers often/mostly/sometimes have fixed premises so should be easier to raid and search. Snag to SAPS etc I think is that the scrap dealers pay succulent bribes, may have political connections and can easily organise a hit to take out an inconvenient cop, hence are left alone; a bit like the taxi bosses.
 
Oldfut said:
Or both but if the cameras show a bunch of balaclava clad guys stealing metalwork, and then the camera, to a snoozing control room it won't be too helpful. Catch them and they will be replaced by other thieves; this is SA. The scrap dealers often/mostly/sometimes have fixed premises so should be easier to raid and search. Snag to SAPS etc I think is that the scrap dealers pay succulent bribes, may have political connections and can easily organise a hit to take out an inconvenient cop, hence are left alone; a bit like the taxi bosses.
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The flir is in the scope and the law has changed to treason with shoot on site with video evidence:
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Oldfut said:
Or both but if the cameras show a bunch of balaclava clad guys stealing metalwork, and then the camera, to a snoozing control room it won't be too helpful. Catch them and they will be replaced by other thieves; this is SA. The scrap dealers often/mostly/sometimes have fixed premises so should be easier to raid and search. Snag to SAPS etc I think is that the scrap dealers pay succulent bribes, may have political connections and can easily organise a hit to take out an inconvenient cop, hence are left alone; a bit like the taxi bosses.
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Ive had a guy break into my property to steal a rusty old 44 gallon drum... Got him down the road on his way to the scrappys with it on his head.. ... But as fast as you can catch these fkrs there are 1000 more to replace him.. I really dont know how this country can combat this issue but SAPS is not up to the task...
 
mojoman said:
Ive had a guy break into my property to steal a rusty old 44 gallon drum... Got him down the road on his way to the scrappys with it on his head.. ... But as fast as you can catch these fkrs there are 1000 more to replace him.. I really dont know how this country can combat this issue but SAPS is not up to the task...
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The laws need to change.
 
Moto Guzzi said:
Vandalism & theft are too soft descriptions of whats going on here. Sabotage NR-1, just find the syndicates involved. These are proved structures with all the components assembled. Remove the syndicate headquatuers and the footsoldiers will disappear as well.
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Already done, @Moto Guzzi!

See here:

Pretoria Major Power Outage 10-04-2023

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/strong-indications-that-criminality-played-a-role-here-tshwane-pylon-collapse-linked-to-crime-20230411
mybroadband.co.za
 
Lupus said:
They should be targetting the scrap yards and start dealing with them heavy handily.
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Should be along the lines of if a scrap yard is found with any stolen metal from state infrastructure such as rail lines/power lines/etc... the scrap yard is immediately shut down and the owners are arrested on the spot.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Should be along the lines of if a scrap yard is found with any stolen metal from state infrastructure such as rail lines/power lines/etc... the scrap yard is immediately shut down and the owners are arrested on the spot.
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How do you prove metal is stolen?
 
wingnut771 said:
How do you prove metal is stolen?
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Its not easy without a doubt... especially in respect of structural steel such as for these pylons.

But for cables it gets a fair chunk easier when the sheething on the cables can be identified.

And rail lines are even easier :P
 
ToxicBunny said:
Its not easy without a doubt... especially in respect of structural steel such as for these pylons.

But for cables it gets a fair chunk easier when the sheething on the cables can be identified.

And rail lines are even easier :p
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That's why they burn the cable first.
lol with rail, yeah no talking yourself out of that one lol
 
wingnut771 said:
That's why they burn the cable first.
lol with rail, yeah no talking yourself out of that one lol
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You'd be surprised, for small cables yeah they burn, for the big boy stuff very often they don't... cos its not very likely that some random on a bakkie is going to arrive at the scrap yard with hundreds of meters of heavy gauge power cable, so the scrap yard is 100% aware of what they're accepting.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Its not easy without a doubt... especially in respect of structural steel such as for these pylons.

But for cables it gets a fair chunk easier when the sheething on the cables can be identified.

And rail lines are even easier :p
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The one from the good old days had Iskor stamped all over it.
 
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