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Aren't the French just repeating their history; huff, puff and strut, surrender after bungling leaders cost thousands of lives, collaborate with the occupiers but wave little flags when they are rescued by their "allies"; mainly the UK and US? It is in their DNA; the French Army pocketknife comes with a little white flag tool.
 
Oldfut said:
Aren't the French just repeating their history; huff, puff and strut, surrender after bungling leaders cost thousands of lives, collaborate with the occupiers but wave little flags when they are rescued by their "allies"; mainly the UK and US? It is in their DNA; the French Army pocketknife comes with a little white flag tool.
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The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent Russian threats and have therefore raised their security level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.”

Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.” The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. The Russians have been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let’s Get the Bastards.” They don’t have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France’s white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country’s military capability.

Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”

The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbour” and “Lose.”

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from “No worries” to “She’ll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we’ll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is cancelled.” So far, no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

John Cleese – British writer, actor and tall person
 
Oldfut said:
Aren't the French just repeating their history; huff, puff and strut, surrender after bungling leaders cost thousands of lives, collaborate with the occupiers but wave little flags when they are rescued by their "allies"; mainly the UK and US? It is in their DNA; the French Army pocketknife comes with a little white flag tool.
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The French had one Russian occupation. That was after the defeat of Napoleon. From what I read the commander there paid for every chicken his men stole. The word bistro, comes from Russian meaning "quick" and is a remnant of that time when Russian officers demanded food fast in French eateries.
The French had pleasant experiences of the Russians. By contrast not as much fun with the Germans and Brits or the Spanish/Portuguese/Italians.

France wants to create a common European military. It's part of their domination of the European Union together with Germany. They want to also have the security structure because without NATO the EU "army" would be pretty weak. That would be OK for the French as they see the Russians as reasonably friendly and as a Gestaltungsmacht for the unwashed masses of Slavs, Magyars and Asians in Eastern Europe. Indeed Russia could control half of Europe while France with Germany could control the Western part. All would be jolly.
Not everyone in France falls for that but French emotions will run between this and NATO.

Given France is behind the former Warsaw Pact countries and American loaded Germany, France has nothing to fear from Russia. France also has a nuclear deterrent of its own. Hence the French can play these games. Still if they don't want world war, because a Russian defeat of Ukraine may lead to that, as the Russians do their peredyshka and rebuild with Ukrainians to take on NATO Europe, they should at least not interfere in NATO business in Europe.
 
notice how someone is not going to ask someone else "how many" now

this is the double standard employed by some
 
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Excellent thread on why Poland and the Baltics are so insecure and desperate to join the US Empire and vie with Britain to be America's most obedient lap dog in Europe. I've mentioned that before in this thread.

There is far more pluck in countries like Hungary, Austria, Serbia, France, Italy, and even a still somewhat castrated Germany, to be truly free of America's yoke.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1646543738238533633
 
buchanan8 said:
Excellent thread on why Poland and the Baltics are so insecure and desperate to join the US Empire and vie with Britain to be America's most obedient lap dog in Europe. I've mentioned that before in this thread.

There is far more pluck in countries like Hungary, Austria, Serbia, France, Italy, and even a still somewhat castrated Germany, to be truly free of America's yoke.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1646543738238533633
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Haha.

Well of course there is "pluck" in France and a few others because they are behind these countries or are loaded with American forces.

Austria is a country full of Russian spies. One can find references to that online.
Serbia was in the Russian camp because being Orthodox and over Kosovo.
Italy actually will not go with Russia. Italy and Poland have a long history.
France is trying to do their European army thing.

Keep trying. Russia is just a belligerent regime trying to bring war. All that Big Serge clown said was his own projection. Poles and Baltics just don't want to be next, but if they are to be, they will as in 1939 bring the whole of Europe into it, Buchy. In 1939 the Poles turned their war with Germany into a world war through a system of alliances.
So for everyones' sake, let's hope Ukraine stops Russia and Russia does not decide to attack anyone else.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
Most Russians aren't European. They're Asian.
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Russians (middle class) see themselves as European. In fact they would want to rule Europe with the French and Germans. I speak about the white western Russians of course. There are various eastern people who don't draw a connection to Europe.
 
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BBSA said:
Does Russians embrace western liberal values?
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BBSA, embrace of western liberal values is not something European per se.

If you mean something which goes with the ideology of the European Union maybe, but not Europe as a continent and the sort of common culture there.

Secondly how Europeans of various countries see Russia has nothing to do with how Russians see themselves.

Actually Europe is a little autocratic and authoritarian given how the European Commission seems to want to supersede individual countries. Power is moved further away from the people. I don't know about you, but I personally don't like that too much. When I remember, I try to vote against that in EP elections.
 
Mirai said:
BBSA, embrace of western liberal values is not something European per se.

If you mean something which goes with the ideology of the European Union maybe, but not Europe as a continent and the sort of common culture there.

Secondly how Europeans of various countries see Russia has nothing to do with how Russians see themselves.

Actually Europe is a little autocratic and authoritarian given how the European Commission seems to want to supersede individual countries. Power is moved further away from the people. I don't know about you, but I personally don't like that too much. When I remember, I try to vote against that in EP elections.
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I see western liberal values as promoting individual freedom, human rights, democracy, and the rule of law..... the foundation of many modern democracies.
 
BBSA said:
I see western liberal values as promoting individual freedom, human rights, democracy, and the rule of law, and the foundation of many modern democracies.
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None of those things are European per se. And sometimes people mean different things by each of those.
 
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