The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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JuliusSeizure said:
Frans Cronjes's analysis won't be popular here.

“The concerns of ANC voters are logical, reasoned and with merit. They are not “crazy," “stupid," or “blind to reality". They are, in fact, extremely reasoned.

“Firstly, they deeply appreciate the substantial improvement in quality of life that the ANC brought about, especially between 1994 and 2008.
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Lol that is just stupid.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
Frans Cronjes's analysis won't be popular here.

“The concerns of ANC voters are logical, reasoned and with merit. They are not “crazy," “stupid," or “blind to reality". They are, in fact, extremely reasoned.

“Firstly, they deeply appreciate the substantial improvement in quality of life that the ANC brought about, especially between 1994 and 2008.
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I will tell you a stunning fact that will completely destroy you and trigger you for eternity.

FACT: My friend Sipho told me that he was extremely happy before 1994. Everything just worked 100%
 
JuliusSeizure said:
PA will grow for the same reasons VF+ will grow and there is no party which can relate to the coloured community as well as the PA. The DA is not even trying to win back the votes they lost to PA.

When economies do badly, ethnic parties do well which benefit the likes of the VF+, IFP, PA etc.
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There's a difference. The VF+ and IFP are not confused flip floping idiots.

Coloureds can very easily align with the VF+, it is just the level of poverty in these communities that is a problem. They like to struggle, same as ANC voters.

VF+ is more in favour of afrikaans than white overall. But now they are doing great at just basic communication and services in the areas where they operate irrespective with no favoritism for any group.
 
surface said:
I will tell you a stunning fact that will completely destroy you and trigger you for eternity.

FACT: My friend Sipho told me that he was extremely happy before 1994. Everything just worked 100%
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So true.
 
rietrot said:
There's a difference. The VF+ and IFP are not confused flip floping idiots.

Coloureds can very easily align with the VF+, it is just the level of poverty in these communities that is a problem. They like to struggle, same as ANC voters.

VF+ is more in favour of afrikaans than white overall. But now they are doing great at just basic communication and services in the areas where they operate irrespective with no favoritism for any group.
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In Gayten and PA's defence, he has said he will support whoever gives his guys the most jobs, be it DA or ANC.

In actual fact, getting their guys into jobs is what all the parties want to do.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
In Gayten and PA's defence, he has said he will support whoever gives his guys the most jobs, be it DA or ANC.

In actual fact, getting their guys into jobs is what all the parties want to do.
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Within reason. The others are not so openly just in it to enrich themselves, except maybe EFF.
 
rietrot said:
The DA still blaming the ANC is the same as the ANC still blaming Apartheid. It is getting old.
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It's not about blame, it's a statement of fact. If you don't know why and how you got into a mess, how are you ever going to formulate a plan to get out of that mess?

TheChamp said:
You are the one in denial mnganam, the ANC governed Joburg and Ekurhuleni besides Tshwane, let's go with your superior logic for a minute, why is Joburg and Ekurhuleni not in the same position as Tshwane even when the ANC has governed them for much longer than Tshwane?

Why do they continue to be functional with even more frequent government changes than Tshwane even when the DA has been in power since 2016 and the Tshwane coalition has been more stable than the other two metros?
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Yep, you've just proven that you have no idea of the scale of the problem. You truly think those areas are great?
 
rietrot said:
There's a difference. The VF+ and IFP are not confused flip floping idiots.

Coloureds can very easily align with the VF+, it is just the level of poverty in these communities that is a problem. They like to struggle, same as ANC voters.

VF+ is more in favour of afrikaans than white overall. But now they are doing great at just basic communication and services in the areas where they operate irrespective with no favoritism for any group.
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Actually, they by and large supported DA before the PA. The defections to the PA are fairly recent.

Perhaps the DA ought to look at itself for why coloureds view it as using them for voting fodder?
 
ghaye said:
It's not about blame, it's a statement of fact. If you don't know why and how you got into a mess, how are you ever going to formulate a plan to get out of that mess?


Yep, you've just proven that you have no idea of the scale of the problem. You truly think those areas are great?
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Talking about facts but refusing to acknowledge facts, the irony...

There is a very good reason you can't answer the questions I posed to you.
 
R13... said:
I'm surprised Zille is against vaccine mandates when at some stage as premier she wanted mandatory HIV testing.
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She flip flops.

She flip flopped on BEE and was the first one to introduce it to DA party policy. Mmusi is often wrongly attributed for including it into DA policy.

This is somehow forgotten by some.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
Actually, they by and large supported DA before the PA. The defections to the PA are fairly recent.

Perhaps the DA ought to look at itself for why coloureds view it as using them for voting fodder?
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For the same reasons white Afrikaners left the DA for the VF+. The difference is we moved to a better party the coloured are going backwards to something worse.
 
rietrot said:
For the same reasons white Afrikaners left the DA for the VF+. The difference is we moved to a better party the coloured are going backwards to something worse.
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What has the VF+ actually done other than moan in parliament from time to time?
 
TheChamp said:
Talking about facts but refusing to acknowledge facts, the irony...

There is a very good reason you can't answer the questions I posed to you.
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Where are your facts? You made a statement. So my statement is: you don't have all the facts to make the assertions that you are.
 
TheChamp said:
A better party for white Afrikaners, hence the reason it doesn't appeal too much to coloureds?
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White Afrikaners are their first priority but they have to a lesser extent tried to get some support from coloured Afrikaans speakers. This was the reason they fielded political opportunist Peter Marais as their Western Cape Premier Candidate.

But the coloureds who join VF+ also have to know their place.
 
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