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US Politics: Everything Is Worse And It's All Biden's Fault
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Do you really? You're the one who constantly changes tack or deflects when confronted with INDISPUTABLE FACTS that go counter to your Demonrat leftist lesberal narrative...
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whataboutism
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noun: whataboutism
- the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.
What counter accusation did I make? We are discussing the actions and timeline of the cop on the day, or do you dispute that he was filming with his phone?
Watched the video more than a few times and I cannot see this wheel spinning you guys are talking about...
If this was a front wheel drive how can you see, and if an AWD its highly unlikely that her car would be wheel spinning in place.
If this was a front wheel drive how can you see, and if an AWD its highly unlikely that her car would be wheel spinning in place.
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YOU can continue to believe what YOU apparently saw from the video evidence - I will continue to believe what I apparently saw as well - your interpretation differs diametrically from mine - so be it - somewhere between these two opposing views of ours is the TRUTH - I will wait for the ACTUAL EXPERTS - be they judicial, legal, ballistic or forensic - to draw their learned conclusions and publish them for all to analyse - then we can discuss THEIR decisions, whichever way the scales of justice swing...
Until then, you can carry on 'wheel-spinning' your narrative if it gives you pleasure & satisfaction - but I am done trying to argue with your skewed viewpoint.
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It's pretty obvious that the act to shoot was all reflex. He was primed. He was ready. Previsualisation set. Hair trigger engaged.
I think, whether she started moving, or somebody honked their horn - Unless the world just so happened to come to standstill for a number of minutes - Renee Good was going to get shot that day.
I think, whether she started moving, or somebody honked their horn - Unless the world just so happened to come to standstill for a number of minutes - Renee Good was going to get shot that day.
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Obviously you did not watch the video I posted earlier looking at the body language & psychology involved in this event.
Watch it. Maybe you learn something.
Video and expert evidence really sucks when it destroys your narratives. Shame.
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Watch the video at NORMAL speed with the audio soundtrack turned up - you can CLEARLY HEAR the tyres wheel-spinning on the icy road before they eventually gripped & the SUV lurched forward towards the ICE agent...
That guy was terrible.
If only your hero had decided to wait before calling the victim a domestic terrorist.
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You're wasting your time with HAL 9000. He's not looking for facts. He's looking to drown you with a barrage nonsensical arguments. What is it called? Gish gallop or something.
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Step through it frame by frame, you can clearly see the tires losing traction on the ice. The wheels rotate but the car doesn't move.
What media player are you using, phone or pc? Try MPV media player, you can easily move forward/back a single frame at a time using the comma/fullstop keys.
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Nope, the vehicle was revving up there. Where are the reverse lights? No reverse lights shows you're wrong.
Just in case of a "But were the reverse lights working?", yep, they were.
Btw, the wheels were supposed to be turned to the left ... yeah, it happens shortly after.
Maybe go look at the video which your pic comes from again, look at what happens directly before it reaches the stage where her wife, on the right, has just her foot sticking out as in your pic. Sync that up to your pic.
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The real issue with this entire event isn't even the shooting itself. That's a symptom of the wider circumstance.
When you:
I mean... If it was plenty of other places in the world, where people in general have been used to getting victimized by state sanctioned violence all their lives, where they've at least had some level of ingrained situational awareness... You might see people meekly going along with it. As many people here seem to imply should be only natural.
But it is not just natural in the US.
Sometimes I think people here forget that people in the US actually reserve the right to openly carry their guns. Even semi-automatic rifles. There has even been trends of people doing so with the explicit intent to record their interactions with police forces. Bragging about their right to carry openly on social media.
And here's the funniest thing - We're talking mostly about exactly the type of conservative, sovereign citizen nutters who now shout as hard as they can for MAGA. Insisting that people should calmly and meekly go along with anything that any law enforcement says, or get shot. The sheer hypocrisy of it.
When (/if) things get normal again in the US, then these few years are going to leave a lot of people wondering what the actual F was going on.
When you:
- Form a largely amateur, shoddily trained force
- Mask them for anonymity
- Arm them
- Largely exempt them from anything resembling procedural standards, even as basic as what is implied strongly by their constitution
- Send them into residential areas with orders to confront anybody and everybody as they see fit
- Publicly defend any action they take at all cost
- Spouting divisive and inflammatory rhetoric all the way
I mean... If it was plenty of other places in the world, where people in general have been used to getting victimized by state sanctioned violence all their lives, where they've at least had some level of ingrained situational awareness... You might see people meekly going along with it. As many people here seem to imply should be only natural.
But it is not just natural in the US.
Sometimes I think people here forget that people in the US actually reserve the right to openly carry their guns. Even semi-automatic rifles. There has even been trends of people doing so with the explicit intent to record their interactions with police forces. Bragging about their right to carry openly on social media.
And here's the funniest thing - We're talking mostly about exactly the type of conservative, sovereign citizen nutters who now shout as hard as they can for MAGA. Insisting that people should calmly and meekly go along with anything that any law enforcement says, or get shot. The sheer hypocrisy of it.
When (/if) things get normal again in the US, then these few years are going to leave a lot of people wondering what the actual F was going on.
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