Israel says it has launched attack on Iran, as explosions reported in Tehran

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Mike Hoxbig said:
We don't know what the actual goal is, because every time they finish with one then there's another.

With Iran it was regime change or pre-emptive strike, who knows, the story keeps changing. With Lebanon it's Hezbollah and then it will be Houthis next. Then it will be Turkey etc. etc.

With Gaza it was precisely indiscriminate extermination. They flattened the place, using Hamas as the excuse. For all we know their actual goal could be totally taking over the region to expand their territory...
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The guy is a deranged warmongering lunatic. There is no logic to what they are doing. Wiping out the enemies you created and calling it your vision is psychotic
 
Neptuner said:
Its not like its a secret.

www.middleeastmonitor.com

Netanyahu says he is on historic mission for greater Israel

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is on a historic and spiritual mission and strongly supports a “Greater Israel” vision. This vision, he claims, includes the occupied Palestinian territori…
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Well someone should show him were Iran is on a map.

I agree with a greater Israel, but I also know how to zoom out on Google maps an locate Iran.
 
Spizz said:
Perhaps. The goal was to live in peace with their neighbours. Now however, they realise that is not possible after they suffered a massacre and the world marched for the perpetrators. I suppose to them it seems that no matter what they do they are always in the wrong and always to blame, so they don’t give a flying fsck anymore.

Can hardly blame them. It’s a them or us situation and they choose themselves.

And before one of the usual suspects jump in and accuse me of all sorts, no, I don’t agree with it, I’m just telling it like I see it.
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At least you are responding honestly and calmly amongst all this brain-dead propaganda and imbecelic devotion to said propaganda.
 
Splinter said:
At least you are responding honestly and calmly amongst all this brain-dead propaganda and imbecelic devotion to said propaganda.
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It amazes me how many people are unable to se the big picture. I always thought anti-semitism was an excuse from the Israelis to deflect criticism and people didn’t really hate Jews, now I’m not so sure.

Little weedy guy stands up to bully after bully for years, and after a while works out at the gym annd is eventually able to defend himself. Then the bullies realise the weedy guy is not lying down to them and they turn into the victims, cry about it to world and they all then blame the guy who was forced to defend himself for so many years and continues to do so.
 
Splinter said:
Hmm. @Vorastra has refused to answer me asking four times as to whether he is a member of Hamas.

Now, suddenly you come on here trying to lay some obvious stage.

Are you a member of Hamas as well?
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It sure as hell seems like you are a member of Hamas coming on here like a typical ANC card carrier shouting out "Are you a member of the ANC, show me your card if you are a member!" :unsure: Four times nogal :X3:
 
Thread is gonna break soon, 500 pages reached, time to think of a new name.

How about

Iran War: You cannot fail, if you don't have a goal.
 

Wut said:
It sure as hell seems like you are a member of Hamas coming on here like a typical ANC card carrier shouting out "Are you a member of the ANC, show me your card if you are a member!" :unsure: Four times nogal :X3:
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Did you just inadvertently disclose you are also Vorastra? You have each replied on the others behalf before, but I just took that as being the brotherhood.

So, noting your deflection as Wut, I ask again - are you a member of Hamas?
 
Spizz said:
Perhaps. The goal was to live in peace with their neighbours. Now however, they realise that is not possible after they suffered a massacre and the world marched for the perpetrators. I suppose to them it seems that no matter what they do they are always in the wrong and always to blame, so they don’t give a flying fsck anymore.

Can hardly blame them. It’s a them or us situation and they choose themselves.

And before one of the usual suspects jump in and accuse me of all sorts, no, I don’t agree with it, I’m just telling it like I see it.
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And neither am I defending the other side, as some would assume, because for some reason if you're not with us then you must be with them.

But if you take a moment and look at it from the other side's point of view, you'll notice that they see it exactly the same way. Here's some people who weren't even here 80 years ago (compared to us who have been here for 100s of years), they got given land which didn't belong to them and displaced the natives. Then they slowly start taking even more land from the Palestinians, and outright stating that they eventually want a greater Israel - a nice way of saying they want to take over the entire region. If that's what they want, we're going to fight them with whatever we have before they get here.

If Lesotho or Swaziland tried that schit with SA, most of us would be pissed. They can call themselves Cthulus Chosen People or whatever they want, we won't give a schit, no South African would stand for it. The equivalent would then be Namibia arming SA "resistance" groups to fight them, which also provides resistance to them reaching Namibia. They label these groups as terrorists to the rest of the world, and use that as an excuse to blow us up to take over our territory.

Just painting an alternate picture, so /Inb4 "you terrorist lover" from the peanut gallery...
 
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