Analysis of charging costs over a year of driving the GWM Ora 03 GT

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Enjoyed the read.

Glad this was mentioned from get-go lest we get an avalanche of comments running the metrics.

Our primary motivation was not to save money. I had previously tested several EVs and wanted one for its smoother and quieter travel.
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Well done for using proper scientific units. Why can the automotive press not use the transition to EV as an opportunity to use km/kWh, rather than kWh/100 km?
 
I think km/kWh makes us logical minded people happy, but I can see how kWh/100km makes laymen more content with what they need for their next "road trip".
 
vastrap1 said:
I think km/kWh makes us logical minded people happy, but I can see how kWh/100km makes laymen more content with what they need for their next "road trip".
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It's from existing per liter or liter per convention, so I don't think there's much to be bothered by.

On the other hand - Personally I've always just enjoyed referring to kwh as "units". Like when you pay your bill or buy prepaid, in the context of practical amounts of electricity it serves just fine.

km/unit is just easier . Everybody would get it.
 
I don't know if we have the right market for EVs just yet. Currently, most new cars sold in SA are between R 200k and R 300k. So you would have to offer something in that price range that made sense to most people.

This will obviously change as fuel gets more expensive and electricity gets cheaper with better batteries for longer range. But it is hugely positive that it can already be shown to be "cheaper" to run an electric car - even if only in a specific scenario or use case.
 
What is the price difference between the petrol equivalent spec of car compared to the ev?
R10k saving is meaningless then
 
vastrap1 said:
I think km/kWh makes us logical minded people happy, but I can see how kWh/100km makes laymen more content with what they need for their next "road trip".
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This video is for mpg, but it is applicable to your units as well. It isn't that simple.

There is a good reason for l/100km or kWh/100km
 
Interesting how the article is all about cost saving but does not factor in the premium paid to buy said GWM EV.

Also, the BYD Dolphin comparison.
Petrol alternatives like Toyota starlet cross, Toyota Urban Cruiser, Omoda C5, Chery Tiggo Cross Mahindra X30, some are bigger, some more practical or about the same for less or equal to that BYD. Just as much tech options as BYD.

BYD is R340K, Starlet cross R250K, if cost saving is also about R10k per year, every year.
Would take 9 years to break even. Assuming you have not already sold it before then.
Also, the depreciation on EV cars is astronomically more than an ICE car.
 
What is the difference in insurance between similar EVs and ICEs?
 
konfab said:
This video is for mpg, but it is applicable to your units as well. It isn't that simple.

There is a good reason for l/100km or kWh/100km
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Your avatar already shows your prejudice.
(Not that I have been willing to spend 11 min of my life to watch the video yet.)
 
ICE diehards are just as idiotic as EV diehards.

For some use-cases, ICE is the most sensible decision, for others, EV, and for others again it might be something in between (PHEV??).

Stop saying EV is dumb, or EV is the only way. Rather let the early adaptors (that are willing and able to pay the premium) do so. This will help drive infrastructure and also start feeding the 2nd hand market where the prices will be more sensible for the average person.

And if you don't want an EV, just don't buy one. Nobody is forcing you to do it.
 
With my current situation, a small/medium sized EV and a larger petrol powered SUV makes sense as a 2 car garage
 
AntennaMan said:
ICE diehards are just as idiotic as EV diehards.

For some use-cases, ICE is the most sensible decision, for others, EV, and for others again it might be something in between (PHEV??).

Stop saying EV is dumb, or EV is the only way. Rather let the early adaptors (that are willing and able to pay the premium) do so. This will help drive infrastructure and also start feeding the 2nd hand market where the prices will be more sensible for the average person.

And if you don't want an EV, just don't buy one. Nobody is forcing you to do it.
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If I had my way, and it was affordable for the use case, my ideal EV would have a range of around 450kms, then it could be used as the weekly commute vehicle and be recharged over the weekend off solar and I'd have a PHEV/ICE vehicle for any other use cases (currently I have my eye on any news relating to the Chery KP31)
 
ToxicBunny said:
If I had my way, and it was affordable for the use case, my ideal EV would have a range of around 450kms, then it could be used as the weekly commute vehicle and be recharged over the weekend off solar and I'd have a PHEV/ICE vehicle for any other use cases (currently I have my eye on any news relating to the Chery KP31)
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My wife is looking for a new car. She works from home 2 days per week, and the rest is a two way commute of less than 50km per day (non highway). We have a fairly large solar system at home, and my Forester as a second car. For her use case it might make sense to look at the BYD Dolphin Surf or the Geely E2. Both cars have 250-350km range, which should be enough, and she can charge during the day when at home.
 
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