State seeking 15-year jail sentence in firearm discharge case: Malema

This is ridiculous. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff that he is actually guilty of that deserve that sentence, but this specific case should only be a warming. Nothing more.
 
porchrat said:
The guy was filmed doing it. Then he lied about it and tried to throw others under the bus.

Not sure about 15 years, but it's not looking good for him. I'd be surprised if he got off lightly considering his behaviour and attitude.
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Wasting everyone's time is the worst thing he did in this case. I can see a year or two for defeating the ends of justice.
 
rietrot said:
This is ridiculous. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff that he is actually guilty of that deserve that sentence, but this specific case should only be a warming. Nothing more.
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Well.. He shoud get more than a warning but thats fhe most he will get probably.
 
Jam Sandwich said:
Well.. He shoud get more than a warning but thats fhe most he will get probably.
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No. It's not like he shot someone. This should not be a thing at all. If you want to be a Karen about it, some gun safety training.
 
rietrot said:
No. It's not like he shot someone. This should not be a thing at all. If you want to be a Karen about it, some gun safety training.
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Lol... Your own common sense should tell you not to discharge an ak 47 the way he did at an event... I doubt any gun training will help him..

As for not shooting anyone.. He was Just lucky there..
 
rietrot said:
No. It's not like he shot someone. This should not be a thing at all. If you want to be a Karen about it, some gun safety training.
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We don’t know where the bullets ended up.
 
rietrot said:
That means he is innocent and did not commit any real crime. Negligence in itself is not a crime.
If you found one of the bullets in a dead kid I would say guilty of murder.
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Except when you have a law that says you may not discharge a firearm in a built-up area, contravening that is a crime. Doesn't matter what you think or feel about it.
 
ghaye said:
Except when you have a law that says you may not discharge a firearm in a built-up area, contravening that is a crime. Doesn't matter what you think or feel about it.
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We'll see. Some of the cases that come up for the 15 years has additional charges attached, like illegal possession and attempted murder.

Not just being windgat and negligent.

I'm talking about legal principles, way above the understanding of some of you guys who just want to punish your political opponent. Really stupid when you can easily be on the receiving end in SA
 
rietrot said:
We'll see. Some of the cases that come up for the 15 years has additional charges attached, like illegal possession and attempted murder.

Not just being windgat and negligent.

I'm talking about legal principles, way above the understanding of some of you guys who just want to punish your political opponent. Really stupid when you can easily be on the receiving end in SA
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Nah trollie you're just making shyte up.. The law is very clear and he contravened it, finish and klaar.
 
rietrot said:
That means he is innocent and did not commit any real crime. Negligence in itself is not a crime.
If you found one of the bullets in a dead kid I would say guilty of murder.
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Then by the same logic majority of all traffic laws are "unpunishable"

"Sorry officer but me speeding at 240km/h didn't cause any accidents therefore I didn't commit a crime"
 
rietrot said:
We'll see. Some of the cases that come up for the 15 years has additional charges attached, like illegal possession and attempted murder.

Not just being windgat and negligent.

I'm talking about legal principles, way above the understanding of some of you guys who just want to punish your political opponent. Really stupid when you can easily be on the receiving end in SA
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I'm not disagreeing with you on the severity of the prescribed sentence. I think it is disproportionate to a lot of other crimes. But the fact remains that it is there and to deviate from it will require some fancy footwork from his legal team or crooked judge.
 
Absolutely nothing will happen to this racist criminal thug. It's been how long now, and do you think this thing will get the prison sentence it deserves? No, when it's locked up and all assets removed, I'll believe it
 
Mista_Mobsta said:
Then by the same logic majority of all traffic laws are "unpunishable"

"Sorry officer but me speeding at 240km/h didn't cause any accidents therefore I didn't commit a crime"
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100%. I am against speed limits.

I also have not paid a fine in more than 10 years so it is unpunisable. I don't know about 240. My bakkie cruises along very comfortably at 160.
 
ghaye said:
I'm not disagreeing with you on the severity of the prescribed sentence. I think it is disproportionate to a lot of other crimes. But the fact remains that it is there and to deviate from it will require some fancy footwork from his legal team or crooked judge.
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That's the max. According to the prescribed sentencing guidelines he could just get a fine and criminal conviction, which I still think is harsh for a victimless "crime".
 
rietrot said:
That means he is innocent and did not commit any real crime. Negligence in itself is not a crime.
If you found one of the bullets in a dead kid I would say guilty of murder.
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Im pretty
rietrot said:
That's the max. According to the prescribed sentencing guidelines he could just get a fine and criminal conviction, which I still think is harsh for a victimless "crime".
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Ja jong.
 
rietrot said:
That's the max. According to the prescribed sentencing guidelines he could just get a fine and criminal conviction, which I still think is harsh for a victimless "crime".
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So if I do the same, would you also advocate for me to not get sentenced.

I know for a fact (based on the color of my skin) that if I was to discharge a FA in the public, I would be sitting with my ass in jail and my home would be raided to search for other FA's
 
Went_For_Beer said:
So if I do the same, would you also advocate for me to not get sentenced.

I know for a fact (based on the color of my skin) that if I was to discharge a FA in the public, I would be sitting with my ass in jail and my home would be raided to search for other FA's
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Apart from the fact that you seem not to know what "sentenced" means, the search of your home might uncover this:FB_IMG_1729573329320.jpg
 
rietrot said:
This is ridiculous. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff that he is actually guilty of that deserve that sentence, but this specific case should only be a warming. Nothing more.
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Now is not the time to advocate gun freedom.

It's fúck-your-political-enemies-o-clock. Get in line.
 
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