OPEN LETTER TO MALLS: Car washers in public parking

Foxhound5366 said:
One is in a bad mood when you can point out that having to be approached by a carwasher every time you park at some first-world malls doesn't make marketing sense in terms of user experience for shoppers' first point of contact?
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Maybe first-world malls don't like people with dirty cars lowering the tone.... ;)
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Aah man, look how nicely I wrote the original letter to the malls. I didn't rant at them, I expressed how much I like both of the malls ... I'd say it was as reasonable as possible.

You know the saying "If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything."? I live by that. You need to understand how things SHOULD be, and even COULD be. If we all just accepted whatever crap we get shovelled, the world would be a worse place.
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your message was probably deleted or shredded, again, malls are there to make money,
if you arrive on a pogo stick or a 18 wheeler truck makes no difference, YOU are choosing to go there, you are choosing to make use of their facilities,

you have to put up with the annoyances, yes they SHOULD clean up their act, but that costs money AND still the Beggers come back.
same with other crap, there is tons we cant control, everyday we see it, but OUR reaction is what is important, as who can we ACTUALLY control?

my point is Chill ya baba and move on with life.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Why must I have to ASK to not be approached by salespeople in a closed parking lot where I'm paying for access? If you want a salesperson running around for every possible service that 1% of people use, you're going to turn every mall parking lot into an African market. If that's the vibe you want, be my guest. But I don't ask or expect to be greeted by that every time I visit a supposedly world-class mall ... rather than the local Shoprite.
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Have you met Jehovah Witnesses?
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Even saying no thanks is an annoyance in itself. It doesn't make me look around in a parking lot with a sense of excitement and anticipation for the great experience I'm about to have at the mall.
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Excitement at the mall? I know we're in Joeys but malls are not exciting things. Well I mean Cresta does have the smallish arcade by the movies. Fourways is bigger
 
Sending this to all the malls around the areas that @Foxhound5366 might visit.

Subject: Appreciation for Opportunities and Services at the Mall

Dear Mall Management Team, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for the opportunities you continue to create within the mall environment. The job opportunities provided to individuals in the community make a meaningful difference, and it is encouraging to see people empowered through work.

I also want to thank you for enabling convenient services such as car washing while shopping. Being able to support local workers and take care of an essential task at the same time is genuinely appreciated. Thank you for your ongoing efforts to improve both the customer experience and the livelihoods of those working within the mall.

Kind regards
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RedViking said:
There are many things that are annoying in Africa. However if they are not committing crime or high on drugs I can live with it. A simple "no thanks" does the trick.
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If only ...
In Joburg and any of the smaller dorpies around SA where car guards and washers seem to have invaded, a simple and polite "no thanks" just doesn't cut it. I had enough nagging from my ex-wife...I don't need it every time I stop my car in a public space
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Even saying no thanks is an annoyance in itself. It doesn't make me look around in a parking lot with a sense of excitement and anticipation for the great experience I'm about to have at the mall.
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This! Then you have to say no thanks to the car guard when he greets you for no reason at all. Then you have to say no thanks to the shoe cleaner inside the mall. Then you have to say no thanks to the guy flogging a gym membership at you. Then you have to say no thanks to the person at the shop you just walked into because you know what you want and can get it yourself. Then you have to dodge a few parked cars inside the mall being sold. Where does it end?
 
Lupus said:
Those are Scientologists very different and no free The Watchtower reading material
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exactly my point, dont know if we get moonies in SA, but they can be also annoying.
back in the day there were also the guys selling "dead sea products" used to love freaking them out,

letting them pitch a whole spiel to me in their broken english, and in the last min, insulting them in Fluent Hebrew.
the look on their faces was priceless,
 
Foxhound5366 said:
So you wrote a whole post about how how you don't have time to write about your real grievances? Sorry to hear about your kak, buddy. I hope things get better soon, including that bad case of the Irony.
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You read between the lines to find something I didn't say... so ok then...

But yep... I hope things go as well for me someday that people asking to wash my car is high enough up my list of troubles that it moves me to write letters to mall management.
 
Smiggles said:
This! Then you have to say no thanks to the car guard when he greets you for no reason at all. Then you have to say no thanks to the shoe cleaner inside the mall. Then you have to say no thanks to the guy flogging a gym membership at you. Then you have to say no thanks to the person at the shop you just walked into because you know what you want and can get it yourself. Then you have to dodge a few parked cars inside the mall being sold. Where does it end?
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my point exactly, some people haven't trained themselves to tune out the annoyances.
yes, its annoying but life generally is, especially when you go to a mall and have to see other people
 
Cray said:
How is this any different to any other service provider or shop at a mall? You have loads of shops, cinemas, food places at the average mall. Do they all owe you a cut?
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They are inside their establishments in the mall, waiting for me to walk in. I have the right to walk in, or walk past ... doesn't it annoy you when malls have those salespeople at activation areas offering you perfumes or back massages and they're actively calling out to all shoppers walking past them? Call me a fool for enjoying walking without having my peace interrupted.
 
Smiggles said:
This! Then you have to say no thanks to the car guard when he greets you for no reason at all. Then you have to say no thanks to the shoe cleaner inside the mall. Then you have to say no thanks to the guy flogging a gym membership at you. Then you have to say no thanks to the person at the shop you just walked into because you know what you want and can get it yourself. Then you have to dodge a few parked cars inside the mall being sold. Where does it end?
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Amen brother. Grab a t-shirt because you have enough EQ to actually perceive and be affected by these annoyances.
 
KulQkumba said:
If only ...
In Joburg and any of the smaller dorpies around SA where car guards and washers seem to have invaded, a simple and polite "no thanks" just doesn't cut it. I had enough nagging from my ex-wife...I don't need it every time I stop my car in a public space
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Oh you haven't met me. There is a reason I don't have friends. They just ask me the first time and then they avoid me afterwords.
 
KulQkumba said:
If only ...
In Joburg and any of the smaller dorpies around SA where car guards and washers seem to have invaded, a simple and polite "no thanks" just doesn't cut it. I had enough nagging from my ex-wife...I don't need it every time I stop my car in a public space
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but what exactly can yo do about it? yelling at them makes them look at you like you are crazy,
saying no thanks makes the most amount of sense,
I take it a bit further and simply ignore them, less work for me.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
car washers are a minor issue compared to some malls still allowing "car guards" to harass customers on their private property
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That is another whole thread. With modern cars having reversing cameras, cross-traffic detection and auto-braking, more than once has a car guard trying to help me out of the parking bay while hovering close enough to my car for a tip caused my car to freak out and panic brake.

Why are shopping centres not paying car guards so they don't need to approach cars for tips, and in return they offer their shoppers a safer shopping experience with less annoyance as they leave (same story as the mall carwashers but at the other end of the user experience - the last memory of your centre you leave your shoppers with as they drive away is a car guard holding out his hand for some coins).
 
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