There is no standardised practice for removing green ID books from circulation in South Africa

[mylesillidge]

The end of green ID books in South Africa poses a problem

While the Department of Home Affairs plans to invalidate the green ID book over the next few years, it appears there is no standardised practice for removing these documents from circulation.

In recent years, the department intensified efforts to eradicate the green ID book, which has become a prime target for identity thieves and fraudsters.

 

[damian24]

missing words?

The polycarbonate smart ID card is not (only?) physically more difficult to manipulate; it features digital components that tie into Home Affairs’ official databases.

 

[RaptorSA]

These ID book articles are being pumped out by the minute.

It feels more like it has become a kind of collective proxy or placeholder to channel anxiety over the inevitable xenophobic violence that's coming than anything actually useful.

 

[Bad Ballie]

Getting desperate to make the European timelines on agenda 2030 and avoid penalties on those loans they were given.

 

[Swa]

How will it be a problem when it's no longer valid? I also don't see a big crisis with people who currently replace their IDs. If there's really a issue then surely it can be checked whether a person acquired a new card before accepting the old book.

 

[Justanotherguybythesea]

still got the green dompas i was issued with at 16, falling to pieces, worn down , and i certainly do not look like the holder. But it is still a valid ID book, as I have used it to votela with a good number of times.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

How will it be a problem when it's no longer valid? I also don't see a big crisis with people who currently replace their IDs. If there's really a issue then surely it can be checked whether a person acquired a new card before accepting the old book.

yip, article about a non-issue, once smart IDs are in everyone's hands, simply declare the green book ID invalid

nothing else needs to be done

the real problem is there is no way to get smart IDs to all eligible people, and it is NOT about easy access to facilities like these retarded articles / DHA press releases always pretend, for some categories of residents there is no actual process or path to even get the smart ID at all

 

[konfab]

yip, article about a non-issue, once smart IDs are in everyone's hands, simply declare the green book ID invalid

nothing else needs to be done

the real problem is there is no way to get smart IDs to all eligible people, and it is NOT about easy access to facilities like these retarded articles / DHA press releases always pretend, for some categories of residents there is no actual process or path to even get the smart ID at all

Not going to work.

The courts already regard watching the latest slop on SABC as one of the fundamental, core constitutional rights, and blocked the turn off of analog TV because there might be someone who won't be able to watch anymore.

What do you think they will do with something like an ID rollout, which affects your right to vote, which is actually a constitutional right?

The only way they can do this is to use the elections, access to social services etc to see how many people use an ID book vs a card, and ensure that once that number goes to zero for X amount of years you can retire it.

For example, during elections, just have some home affairs people going to people in the queue and ask them if they want to sign up for the smart ID.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

The courts already regard watching the latest slop on SABC as one of the fundamental, core constitutional rights, and blocked the turn off of analog TV because there might be someone who won't be able to watch anymore.

that's where the "in everyone's hands" bit comes in, even for digital TV, if it can be empirically proven that everyone already has the required access and devices it becomes a very different story to a rollout plan that already mentions switching things off down the line ... achieve the 100% rollout first, then talk

DHA has it much easier, they have a definitive list of green book IDs, if they can prove every single one of those have been replaced and / or belong to a dead person there is no argument that anyone out there loses access to a valid ID by invalidating the green book

they can't do that while some of their own processes still require a green book ID though