Status of ipv6 in South Africa

portcullis said:
AFRINIC and ZANOG offer no end of free IPv6 training opportunities for ISPs to learn how to implement IPv6.
AFRINIC give massive blocks of IPv6 addresses away for free to their members.

There is one IP transit supplier in South Africa who provides free IPv6 transit to any ISP that asks. We've been using their free IPv6 transit since 2012.

What I've seen in the various training sessions I've been part of is that as soon as many people see the "big numbers", their eyes simply glaze over and they lose all interest.

I simply can't understand why more people don't embrace IPv6. As I write this, more than 60% of the traffic passing through our edge routers is IPv6.
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100Mbps is a bit tight though but I guess free is free right?
 
Gimli_ said:
Why do you believe this? Can you share some deployment info?

What would move the needle is if our mobile providers catch a wake-up and follow the rest of the world.
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Reason being because of most v4 becoming exhausted as well as what the situation at Afrinic was. Its nudged the deployments along.
 
What is holding our mobile operators back? Telkom mobile, MTN, Vodacom and others have zero IPV6. In other countries, initially lead by India, mobile operators make a complete switch over to IPV6, now the country is nearly at 80% of all web traffic
 
According to APNIC statistics, our problem is with all the big operators who basically have zero IPv6 on their networks. Afrihost is the ISP with the 5th most samples taken and they are only at 23% IPv6. The next is Metro Fiber who is another 13 positions down in size of samples taken with 39% IPv6 capability.

Why is Telkom, Vodacom MTN, Didata, Rain, Hero, CellC not even on the map? France is on 80%, India and Germany on 70, and many many other countries are at or around 50%, including US and China. We here in SA are sitting at 3%. The world is moving.

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I remember when I started at IS in 2006, they were preparing for ipv6, when I left in 2015 they were preparing for ipv6.
 
Is there any benefit to giving mobile devices IPv6 addresses anyway? CGNAT works. Customers don't care if they use IPv4 or IPv6. 99.99% of customers just want to be able to watch a video, maybe make a WhatsApp call. No one really cares about what is used as long as they can do what they want to.
 
Genisys said:
Is there any benefit to giving mobile devices IPv6 addresses anyway? CGNAT works. Customers don't care if they use IPv4 or IPv6. 99.99% of customers just want to be able to watch a video, maybe make a WhatsApp call. No one really cares about what is used as long as they can do what they want to
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The biggest mobile providers in the world run ipv6 only, they must have a reason
 
Part of the answer to the OP is that for historical reasons SA has more IPv4 addresses than it needs, compared to most other countries. Because we have not yet run out, this makes the switch to IPv6 much less urgent. Google:
South Africa has approximately 27 to 30 million allocated IPv4 addresses distributed across hundreds of unique subnets or blocks. In total, the country accounts for roughly 0.6% of the global IPv4 address space.
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Gimli_ said:
According to APNIC statistics, our problem is with all the big operators who basically have zero IPv6 on their networks. Afrihost is the ISP with the 5th most samples taken and they are only at 23% IPv6. The next is Metro Fiber who is another 13 positions down in size of samples taken with 39% IPv6 capability.

Why is Telkom, Vodacom MTN, Didata, Rain, Hero, CellC not even on the map? France is on 80%, India and Germany on 70, and many many other countries are at or around 50%, including US and China. We here in SA are sitting at 3%. The world is moving.

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IPv6 is enabled network wide. Air Mobile and MTN to follow soon. If end users don't enable it or leave it disabled in the router then we can't control that.

The networks we can control like Vuma Reach clients don't have a choice and IPv6 is forced enabled and you can't disable it.
 
Gordon_R said:
Part of the answer to the OP is that for historical reasons SA has more IPv4 addresses than it needs, compared to most other countries. Because we have not yet run out, this makes the switch to IPv6 much less urgent. Google:
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Then why the hell are so many of us behind CGNAT?
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
Then why the hell are so many of us behind CGNAT?
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That is exactly right. It is an ISP problem, not a user problem. See statistics above. Any of those percentages reflecting lower than 1 % I am guessing originates in their core network. Not from their broadband users. Take telkom internet or vodacom or MTN as an example. Who using them as a broadband or mobile provider are able to enable IPv6? No-one. So it is an ISP problem.
 
cavedog said:
IPv6 is enabled network wide. Air Mobile and MTN to follow soon. If end users don't enable it or leave it disabled in the router then we can't control that.

The networks we can control like Vuma Reach clients don't have a choice and IPv6 is forced enabled and you can't disable it.
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If you are saying IPv6 is enabled network wide, are you talking about the terrestrial backbone in South Africa? Then yes. Data Centers? Then Yes. But last mile to customer? None of the big players except Afrihost and Metrofiber.

Could you expand by AirMobile and MTN to follow soon?

And you are talking about the networks 'we' can control.... Do you work for one of the ISP's? Care to share?
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
Then why the hell are so many of us behind CGNAT?
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To be frank, everyone should be behind CGNAT unless they need access to do port forwarding.

At the end of the day, how many compromised routers are there out there with the classic admin/admin credentials that is just accessible via the internet?
 
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