IRAN WAR: You can't lose, if you don't have a goal

President Trump has announced that the United States and Iran have reached a deal to end their war. “Congratulations to all!” he said in a posting on his Truth Social site this evening. He then headed off to oversee the garish public spectacle he’d arranged for his birthday on the South Lawn of the White House. The United States, however, has little to celebrate: Trump and his team, in record time, just lost a war to a militarily mediocre—but nonetheless extremely dangerous—adversary.

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Trump Celebrates While America Capitulates

The peace deal with Tehran is an Iranian victory.
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sefeddt said:
President Trump has announced that the United States and Iran have reached a deal to end their war. “Congratulations to all!” he said in a posting on his Truth Social site this evening. He then headed off to oversee the garish public spectacle he’d arranged for his birthday on the South Lawn of the White House. The United States, however, has little to celebrate: Trump and his team, in record time, just lost a war to a militarily mediocre—but nonetheless extremely dangerous—adversary.

www.theatlantic.com

Trump Celebrates While America Capitulates

The peace deal with Tehran is an Iranian victory.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

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Alexander the Straight said:
America's word and promises under Trump mean nothing, at best this might be the end of the this current round of hostilities. The only significant outcome here is that the Americans got confirmation that Iran is no Venezuela.
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You sound upset that orange man capitulated.
His Boss is definitely plotting to undo this agreement.
 
TheChamp said:
They are most probably going to do just that, and they know America is in a corner, they won't pull out and allow Israel to slug it out with Iran.
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At this point they could do exactly that given the sentiment towards Israel throughout the world. Without the US, Israel is the one in a corner. If Israel keeps fcking things up, they will eventually be abandoned.

The victim card worked all these years to get everyone on their side, and it's the only reason they had so many western allies. Because Israel itself has nothing to offer in return - helping them has always been a symbolic gesture to show how much those countries care about Jews after what happened in WW2. But now the Jews have turned into the Nazis, and after all this that victim card isn't going to work anymore...
 
Alexander the Straight said:
America's word and promises under Trump mean nothing, at best this might be the end of the this current round of hostilities. The only significant outcome here is that the Americans got confirmation that Iran is no Venezuela.
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Nah. A lot of Iranian military has been destroyed, including manufacturing capability. And the Gulf states, as I have said before, I going to weaponise themselves a hell of a lot more, so if Iran ever tries their terrorist tactics again, they will get a very firm response.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
At this point they could do exactly that given the sentiment towards Israel throughout the world. Without the US, Israel is the one in a corner. If Israel keeps fcking things up, they will eventually be abandoned.

The victim card worked all these years to get everyone on their side, and it's the only reason they had so many western allies. Because Israel itself has nothing to offer in return - helping them has always been a symbolic gesture to show how much those countries care about Jews after what happened in WW2. But now the Jews have turned into the Nazis, and after all this that victim card isn't going to work anymore...
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The amount they've contributed to the world and probably still will says otherwise 😂
 
Splinter said:
Nah. A lot of Iranian military has been destroyed, including manufacturing capability. And the Gulf states, as I have said before, I going to weaponise themselves a hell of a lot more, so if Iran ever tries their terrorist tactics again, they will get a very firm response.
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With their frozen assets being returned and the development fund, they're going to be in a good place to rebuild stronger without sanctions. This deal is infinitely better than jpcoa for Iran.
 
R13... said:
With their frozen assets being returned and the development fund, they're going to be in a good place to rebuild stronger without sanctions. This deal is infinitely better than jpcoa for Iran.
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Time will tell. Have you seen all the T's and C's of the deal?
 
R13... said:
Saw the leak. The angry denials tell me it has a lot of truth in it. And the sanctions are at least happening. And trump has previously agreed to the development fund.
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It's more all the reeing from the Israeli politicians which show that the leaks are probably accurate.
 
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